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Report: No Abuse of Schiavo
By Matt Margolis | April 18, 2005
I had always believed that Michael Schiavo had been wrongly villified… It appears that I was right. A report from yesterday reveals that after 89 complaints of abuse were investigated, they “never found that he or anybody else harmed Terri Schiavo.”
Regarding such allegations that Michael Schiavo had once said “When is that bitch going to die?” those were also dismissed.
DCF investigators looked into the charges and closed them as unfounded with such comments as “the spouse has always been courteous and very compassionate toward his wife” and “all her needs being met.”
The article also reported that claims that the Schindlers were “exploiting their daughter by selling videotapes of her on the Internet” were also unfounded.
What seems to be the case here is that in such a heated debate over whether or not Terri Schiavo’s fate should have beeen left in the hands of her husband, or given to her parents, people were willing to accept any claim, allegation, or crackpot theory as long as it supported their position.
I am sure some people will dismiss this report also.
UPDATE: Blogs For Terri is curiously silent on this report.. But they certainly knew about the investigations…
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April 18th, 2005 at 10:10 pm
Hm, not a peep yet, that I’ve seen.
April 21st, 2005 at 10:01 am
Did the number of fundie wackos outside that Florida hospice ever number even 100? More than ten times that protested Mayor Street’s call to halt wage tax cuts in Philadelphia a few years back and didn’t make the national news!
I’m still trying to figure out how a nation was “bitterly divided” 82 to 18!
April 21st, 2005 at 1:31 pm
If you believe that Michael Schiavo had Terry’s best interest at heart from the begining,Than I pray that you never become a politician or a judge.
PS: Dont believe the media. They are all simply buisnesses and have their own interest and ratings in the spot where informing unbiast truth to the public should be.
Those who KNOW, KNOW those WHO DONT KNOW!
April 21st, 2005 at 2:34 pm
Oh come on. You can’t probe what someone said - if there is no proof against it. A few nurses have said Michael has wished Terri ill. Where is the probe on Michael promising that he would spend all the money won in the case on Terri? mmhmm
April 21st, 2005 at 11:09 pm
Jay - again “fundies”. define the term since you are so fond of using it. Or, is it just mindless liberal speak and you really don’t know anything about people of faith…..
April 22nd, 2005 at 12:59 am
Kahn, a fundie is just a term that loosely describes one of the American Taliban, someone who has a never-ending desire to protect us from ourselves. You’re trying to get me to say I’m an athiest or something or mock Christianity, but it won’t wash. I believe in the teachings of a Jewish carpenter from 2000 years ago, but I’m not going to accept some stupid ideas that he didn’t say done in his name.
Harry Potter is not Satanic, the water Jesus turned into wine wasn’t a non-alcoholic wine, and God didn’t put dinosaur bones in the ground to test our faith.
April 22nd, 2005 at 2:35 am
Jesus, Jay, WTF? Fundies? Uh, I’m sure as hell not one, but I was a “Terri blogger,” as were a lot of other non-fundies. Just because you don’t agree with those who had a different opinion, that makes us all “fundies”? OK, then, how do you like “barking moonbat”?
Matt,
I just posted at BlogsForTerri today (Thursday night, that is) about the University of Miami report, because I saw it over at Polipundit. I can’t speak for the other writers there, but the post is up.
I actually wouldn’t even have known otherwise, since I’ve detached from the Schiavo issue because frankly, I’m sick of stupid shit like Jay’s remark, and other issues as we’ve discussed elsewhere. You know what I mean.
April 22nd, 2005 at 1:55 pm
Jay - American Taliban - nice, then you assign a bunch of wacko crap to the same people who were just trying to save a womans life.
And speaking of protecting us from ourselves - I guess your against the Union laws, gun control, and seatbelts also?
April 22nd, 2005 at 3:52 pm
“WRONGLY VILIFIED”?!
Michael Schiavo was a ruthless and heartless stump who could have easily permitted his wife to be cared for by her parents, who could had simply left them all alone. Instead he went on a campaign to have his wife starved to death. The courts were no better when they choose to accept his hearsay (”Terri would not have wanted to live this way”).
If Michael was vilified, he deserved every minute. True, perhaps he did not abuse Terri or cause her condition in anyway, but SO WHAT? Shall we credit him for this? The man FOUGHT for YEARS for her slow execution, and then hide behind the pretense of “privacy” as if everyone was somehow entitled to do away with the mentally disabled.
Michael Schiavo was and is worthy of contempt. Let him now join the pariahs of America also known as O.J. Simpson, Robert Blake, and Scott Peterson.
April 24th, 2005 at 2:38 pm
See, now you guys just aren’t thinking. If Michael wanted to be rid of his wife, all he had to do was divorce her and leave her to her parents.
But, he didn’t. He stood by her until her last day. Clearly, he had some other reason for requesting her feeding tube to be removed…Maybe she did say that she would want that.
Which is not that hard to believe. Most of us would rather have the tube removed, than be a burden to the family. I know I would.
AND…there is nothing wrong with Michael moving on with his life. I would want my husband to start dating other people in such a situation. In fact, it disturbs me to think he might wait around for nothing for 15 years. As a normal person, I just want my husband to be happy!
April 24th, 2005 at 2:38 pm
As for the abuse, clearly someone’s imagination has run wild…
April 25th, 2005 at 8:20 am
qt - Wow - what amazing powers of insight you must have. My position was, that since the press was known to have a position we could not trust it. That being said - I just don’t know if it was right or not. I am skeptical of people on either side who seemed so sure. Problem is, Terry is now a bag of burned powder in a hole in the ground. That puts the debate to rest.
But the reason I posted above was to discuss Jay’s repeated hate speech directed at people of religious faith. He first assigns a hate term (fundies) and then assigns attributes to that group that may or not be all true. Right out of Mein Kamp baby.
All of the personal rights in our system of government are based upon western Christian concepts. Our laws in US and the states themselves generally derive from three systems. 1. England and English common law. 2. Spain and its traditions, and 3. France and its traditions and codes. All are Christian. If we are just animals, then why isn’t murder, subrogation, and torture OK? What “legal” principle is used to come to the conclusion that these things are wrong? I’m not a “fundie”, but nether am I a human secularist like some posters here. I think it is better, when uncertain to err in the direction of life.
I would not have wanted to be in the room when Terry finally died. Her sphincter and bladder control would have disappeared, and anything there would have spilled out to surround her now dead and already rotting body. Not pretty is it? We are talking about a real woman who has died. Not some theory. People forget that. Fundies indeed – better than being a heartless asshole.
April 26th, 2005 at 9:02 am
Kahn, you want to be angry at somebody so you’re angry at me. I never said anything against “people of faith”. You’re still trying to say I’m an athiest or some cultural snob. You call me a “moonbat” when all I did was repeat what the fundies say. You know damn well that there have been organized campaigns against not just Harry Potter but books of all sorts by fundies, that evolution is being forced out of our schools (I guess gravity is next), and I’ve heard it straight from the fundies mouths that Jesus turned water into nonalcoholic wine.
Protecting us from ourselves, Kahn? Unions have a right to exist, seatbelts laws are just an excuse to get another twenty-five bucks out of you when you get pulled over for another offense, and we have the right to own and bear arms. We also have the right to watch what we want to or listen to what we want to say what we want to in our own homes, and if anyone is offended by what we want to watch or listen to or say, they have the right to not watch it or not listen to it or not say it. You don’t have to go see Sin City in the theatres, and I don’t have to read the get-rich-quick schemes and penis-enlargement ads that fund Newsmax.
Anyone who wants to talk about what this country was founded upon, our Founding Fathers would be pretty damn horrified that Texas and Pennsylvania politicians were trying to override Florida state law because they were trying to pander to a small minority of the voters who didn’t like the decisions.
And let’s get real;
1) If you believe Sean Hannity Terry Schiavo was dancing and singing right up until the end. That’s garbage.
2) The Schindlers took custody of Terry for all of two weeks years ago and then gave her back.
3) The Schindlers sold the mailing list of everyone who donated to them to fundie organizations and
4) Rick Santorum raised $100,000 in campaign funds while mugging for the cameras outside the Florida hospice, mostly because he’s become so wildly unpopular here at home.
5) Conservative judges reaffirmed existing state laws. That USED to be what the GOP stood for. So-called conservative politicians made hay to pander to fundies against the judges. There is no liberal culture of death that conspired to kill Terry Schiavo in cold-blood. 82% of America isn’t liberal.
April 26th, 2005 at 3:32 pm
I did not call you a moonbat. And you are the one who keeps saying fundies. You are the only person I have ever heard use that phrase. If it doesn’t mean people of faith - then who does it refer to? The Westchester Dog Society? Give me a break. I’m pointing out your hatred. Hatred so deep and ingrained that you don’t see it yourself.
Heil Hitler you asshole.
April 29th, 2005 at 2:03 pm
http://news.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=l&board=37138469&tid=apconservativewriter&sid=37138469&mid=70
Apparently Jim Guckert visted the White House 196 times–including days there were no press conferences, sometimes for overnight stays.
April 29th, 2005 at 5:01 pm
Yes Jay. Its already been established that you hate Gays. Now Christians also. Soon you’ll be annexing Austria.
May 3rd, 2005 at 12:49 am
Kahn vs Jay
“And speaking of protecting us from ourselves - I guess your against the Union laws, gun control, and seatbelts also?”
I’m in favor of seatbelts for the same reason I’m in favor of no smoking, I really hate unnecessary damage being assessed to me in my medical premiums.
Gun control ? Heck, I’m at least a 20 minute drive from the nearest sheriff, and so I have electric sensors and auto lighting, 2 large dogs, and several firearms, archery gear(legally it is safer to shot an arrow nearby, than to shoot a gun). The latter items would only come out if the rest of the stuff failed to discourage an idiot on drugs or otherwise crazy person.
On unions. well if a corporation can have rights of free speech and we can’t prevent billion $ corps from lobbying due to the fiction of a corp being a person, promoted by….corps), then it seems reasonable that unions also fictional persons in a way, should also be allowed to run amuck. It takes a bully to know a bully. it takes a wise businessman to keep his employees happy and to chart a safe financial course for his/her Starship Enterprise.
Let’s see, Fundies vs Mein Kamf and Heil Hitler. Seems like two people are playing the name game, AKA, ad hominem attacks. Why just the other day I heard Laura playing Kennedy singing Rosie O’Grady, to which her engineers had added burps and farts….she pretended to “scold” them.
Yes, I’ve landed on the crazy planet, beam me up, Scotty, no slurs on people of Scottish ancestry, myself included, intended.
Douglas Keachie
PS Terri should have had a pleasant exit, very easy to do, and soon you can do it to yourself with a machine controlled by your own brain, given modern electronic bio connections.
Think click on the self terminate button. Termination sequence begins, and the duration is whatever you set it to. If you interrupt it, it resets to staying alive. At the end of the sequence, if not interrupted, a needle or gas sends you off to the lala land of your particular faith. Very simple, you could password protect the sequence, etc. If God wanted you to stay alive forever, he could have given you such a body. Forty more years of medical science and the younger generation bitching now about the baby boomers, may have their own kids complaining about them living to age 250. heh heh heh !
Keachie
May 3rd, 2005 at 9:15 pm
“NEW YORK (AP) - Nearly 10 years after a brain injury left a firefighter virtually mute, he suddenly started talking to his wife and sons last weekend. A couple of years ago, it happened with a severely injured car accident victim who’d spent 19 years in silence. And before that, a paralyzed policeman whose brain had been damaged in a shooting suddenly regained his speech after eight years. Normally, brain-injured patients who get better do so within the first five years, especially in the first two years, and usually the change is gradual.”
May 3rd, 2005 at 10:22 pm
Douglas Keachie - Jay has regularly - regularly - slandered Christians and “fundamentalist” Christians - a nebulous group he insists on defining in a most onerous manor. (Oh yah, that evil group that feeds and houses orphans in Africa, distributes food and medicine in South America, and runs homeless shelters across the country). He attacks the reporter who asked conservative biased questions at a White House briefing for being a gay escort. He also attacks other Republicans who are gay or have gay relatives. Obviously you did not catch the sarcasm in my post as evidenced by your item by item reply. For the record:
- I believe that Unions were necessary from about 1870 through 1940. Union longshoremen staged strikes during World War Two that slowed the distribution of War Material. Since then, they have been riddled with corruption and centers of violence (Q. How many Teamsters does it take to change a light bulb A. 17, you got a problem with that?) Now, they blindly support Democrats with money and paid media while attacking Republicans. I remember watching Aircraft works protest against Reagan and for Carter. Even though Carter had cancelled the B-1, which was the plane they were building!
- I believe that seat belts and bicycle helmets and motorcycle helmets and baby car seats are good.
- I believe that the second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution was written by revolutionaries and was intended to protect an individuals right to bear arms of equal firepower to the government. I do not believe it had anything to do with collecting or hunting – though those hobbies would naturally enjoy protection under the broader protection.
- I believe that I should be able to opt completely out of the Social Security system – because it sucks.
- I believe that most media is hopelessly biased towards the left. One time, listening to an NPR story on guns on my drive home, I stopped at a gun store and joined the NRA.
- I believe that 11 million illegal aliens means we do not have a border with Mexico.
- And, well other things…
May 6th, 2005 at 9:51 pm
I believe that San Francisco Unified School District did their darndest to cheat me out of my pension over a five year span, and that without the help of the union, I would have been screwed but good. Likewise my sister, a nurse is protected by her union. If you do not take an active part in a union, it can screw you just as bad as the bosses, through the main tool of both, indifference. Bosses and unions have got bigger fish to fry, unless you can make a stink.
Oh how stupid is Sam !
Workin 4 da man, and vot’n Republican !
Repubs vote down school and library issues because they need enough stupids to vote for them. Their own kids they send to private schools, as they, like teachers, who also often are willing to pay 2 to 6 times what the public funds public school/student, know the value of a good education. See my blog for further details.
Notice that Republicans do not go into teaching as a profession, usually claiming they can’t teach the things they want. Please show me what is limiting in the California State Framework ?
http://www.cde.ca.gov/be/st/ss/hstgrade12.asp
Fundy, a slur term, when said just so, it refers to the buttocks, and so really bugs those to whom it is applied.
How about the expression, “going rapture bonkers?”
Have fun in the future. Better start saving now if you’re a youngster who will be able to take advantage of stem cell life extension, and live to 250. Of course, if such inventions are privatized, you may not be able to afford it. It wasn’t that long ago the average age at death was 55. It still is in many places.
May 8th, 2005 at 2:48 pm
Keachie - so the truth is out. A San Francisco Democrat. I thought you sounded dizzy. FYI - Republicans encompass the VAST majority of school districts nationwide. Almost ALL counties in the nation voted Republican – and that is generally where the schools are run. That means MOST republicans send their kids to public schools. You have a habit of making wild unsubstantiated claims. It shows that you are caught in a web of mindless liberal group-think. Screaming BS loudly does not mean you are a good debater.
Interesting though - Do you think the Gores, the Kerry’s, the Clintons, the Edwards, the Gepharts, and the Kennedy’s send/sent their kids to public schools? They did NOT. The Clintons did – before coming to Washington. Washington DC, the school system that spends more per student then any other – was not good enough for the Clintons. I wonder how that school district in san Francisco would have treated you if it hadn’t been run by liberal Democrats? I mean, that IS who runs it isn’t it? Maybe you should move someplace Republican – we tend to be more stand-up than our Democrat counterparts.
Oh - and your stem cell statements are just too incoherent to answer - really.
May 11th, 2005 at 5:14 am
Thoughts on Terry Schiavo, Michael Ross and Blogging
Over the course of the last couple of months I have read many blogs (too numerous to list here) on Terri Schiavo and Michael Ross. I realized that all of them haven’t used the power of blogs for their full…