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John Kerry: Burn All The Books
By Matt Margolis | August 20, 2004
From Drudge:
KERRY CAMPAIGN CALLS FOR BOOK BAN
The Kerry campaign calls on a publisher to ‘withdraw book’ written by group of veterans, claiming veterans are lying about Kerry’s service in Vietnam and operating as a front organization for Bush. Kerry campaign has told Salon.com that the publisher of UNFIT FOR COMMAND is ‘retailing a hoax’… ‘No publisher should want to be selling books with proven falsehoods in them,’ Kerry campaign spokesman Chad Clanton tells the online mag… Developing…
So this is what Kerry is all about. Censoring those who oppose him.
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August 20th, 2004 at 3:04 pm
“Dude, Where’s My Integrity?”
Fitting that someone who currently exemplifies the whining hypocrisy of the left is named “Chad”.
August 20th, 2004 at 3:14 pm
Censorship is exactly what Bush practices. Just ask Howard Stern.
August 20th, 2004 at 4:19 pm
Howard Stern: The font of all truth and wisdom.
August 20th, 2004 at 11:38 pm
You can’t print false accusations without being held accountable to libel laws. Just ask The National Enquirer or the Star about that. This isn’t book burning; it’s fighting back through the courts against those who spread false and malicious lies about you.
August 20th, 2004 at 11:58 pm
Liberals are open-minded, tolerant, easy-going, liberty loving people. Unless, of course, you dare challenge their dogma. They will then use the power of government to silence their opponents. Stalin would be proud.
August 21st, 2004 at 4:12 am
Just move the frigging book to the Fiction section where it belongs. :o)
August 21st, 2004 at 8:10 am
So, if “Unfit for Command” was released as a documentary, then everything would be peaches and cream, eh?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Bueller?
Yeah. Didn’t think so.
August 21st, 2004 at 9:01 am
Why is it 250 guys who weren’t on the same boat as Kerry are able to meticulously remember what he did or didn’t do all those years ago, but not one person has been able to recall seeing George Bush during his unexplained absences in the Alabama Air National Guard?
Oh, it has been great to see John O’Neill and Michelle Malkin have their clocks cleaned on Hardball.
August 21st, 2004 at 9:03 am
BTW, all this yammering benefits Bush by keeping Iraq, which is currently imploding, out of the limelight. As far as Vietnam, Kerry has called Bush for a debate on their respective Vietnam experiences–which of course Bush won’t do.
August 21st, 2004 at 1:52 pm
Jay, how can you tell time at your house? You obviously have no clue what it means to clean a clock.
Matthews came off as a crying little girl whose older brother just decapitated her Barbies.
And his solution for dealing with opposing viewpoints? Kick her off the show. Granted he and his producers have every right to do just that. No one’s being censored here, but he’s not doing anything to improve his image as a whining DNC trouser tool.
August 21st, 2004 at 10:39 pm
What a bunch of hypocritical liberal crap - Jay typifies the Bush hate lies and crap that the liberals have been spewing for months.
Has Kerry denounced Michael Moore, or Woopy Goldberg, MoveOn.org, or Terry McCaulif (spelling apology), or Al Gore???? No, the liberals say he doesn’t need to because the unsubstantiated claims they make are justified! No – in fact he’s quick to mouth the same bull claims about Bush’s Guard service and “lies” about Iraq. OK, so what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Every slander you clowns make against Bush justifies the mud being slung at Kerry. And trying to tie the finances to Republicans and then saying that means Bush is ludicrous. Is Soros from Mars or something? You have created an atmosphere of hate – you can’t complain if NOW you don’t like the way it smells.
That being said – Kerry HAS already changed his position on Cambodia (it was funny to watch the iterations THAT change took over a week). He DID claim American and self atrocities in Viet Nam and he DID harm American soldiers in doing so. The immediate move to censor and sue critics and to suppress the First Amendment drives home my fears about Kerry’s past (and I suspect secret current) positions on Gun Control. Your (liberal) moves to indignantly suppress those with opposing views fills me with fear. The Nazis were soooo sure that they were right and good for Germany and mankind.
August 22nd, 2004 at 12:05 am
Bush released his military records. Kerry hasn’t, and shows no sign of doing so. All it takes is signing a form 180! Having lawyers threaten lawsuits instead of proving his version doesn’t bode well for Kerry’s veracity.
tweell
August 22nd, 2004 at 3:50 am
Oh my, leave it to the “progressives” to exemplify fascism. If you don’t agree with us your voice will not be heard!
Toobad it’s not the 1940s. Nowadays, folks are used to hearing a variety of opinions. Mussolini ended up on a gibbet, right?
Here’s an idea: John Kerry, just sue these guys!! Take the confict into a courtroom where all the facts will have to come out.
SUE THEM. SUE THEM. Oh - you don’t want to? Hmmm. Well that is interesting.
August 22nd, 2004 at 6:46 am
So true Jay. After all Kerry’s memories are seared - seared I say - into his mind. So different than us stoooopid elephants getting everything wrong all the time, right?
August 22nd, 2004 at 7:13 pm
hi..
O/T: You may know me from my brilliant comments on LittleGreenFootballs. Well, I finally took the plunge and started a new blog after I was booted from DemocraticUnderground. I guess I needed a place to blow off steam. Feel free to swing by my modest effort and tell me what you think. I don’t get very many comments and I’m starting to wonder if I’m doing something wrong. Feedback from someone as talented as yourself would be very helpful. It’s obviously still very much a work in progress and I welcome any input.
jheka
August 22nd, 2004 at 9:49 pm
You know, if you assholes would take your mouth off of Bush’s dick for 1 second you might be able to see this isn’t about politics, its about smearing a war hero’s record. Cunts
August 22nd, 2004 at 10:54 pm
Fuckmaster - glad to see you are taking the high road and not lowering yourself into the gutter.
Benedict Arnold was a war hero. Since you have nothing but really vile comments to add - I guess you must be Tereeeza Heinz?
I remember when Kerry TESTIFIED UNDER OATH about the “war crimes”. I remember hearing him claim to have committed “attrocities.” And, I remember him claiming to be in Cambodia - sent there by president Nixon in 1968 (good trick, Johnson was president). I remember meeting him when he was running the VVAW and telling him then that he was betraying me and other Viet Nam vets and soldiers and Marines still in the field. And I remember his arrogant condescending reply. Bush may have his faults, but John F. Kerry is scum. But he’s the perfect Democrat candidate for that reason. And you are an asshole.
August 23rd, 2004 at 2:37 am
“I don’t Testify.”
-George W. Bush, Meet the Press television interview
August 23rd, 2004 at 4:20 am
Matt:
The comment from “jheka,” above, was left by my stalker, who has been posting as me (and others) for months now. Today it posted this same stupidity on many blogs beside yours. Please delete the troll’s comment when you get a chance. If you want to see some background on this, just google “jheka” and “troll.” Thanks a lot for your help.
August 23rd, 2004 at 4:44 am
Wow Funkmaster you are right. I am actually in Washington and not Vegas pulling a Monica. Thanks for the refreshing
truthfulKerryesq comment.Wow! Ok everyone Kerry is my hero. I will take him at his word. I’m voting for the self confessed war criminal.
August 23rd, 2004 at 10:26 am
JAY YOU ARE OWNED!!!!!
GIVE UP!!
YOU AND KERRY HAVE BEEN SPANKED!!!
August 23rd, 2004 at 10:43 am
Bottom line, Bush supported a war and then decided he didn’t have to go. Kerry called Bush to the mat for a debate. Bush won’t respond. Kerry has denounced 527 ads. Bush won’t and the Swifties are tied to his campaign. Bush still can’t produce one person who remembers him being in his Daddy-appointed position in the Champagne Brigade of the Alabama Air National Guard during his unexplained absences.
More importantly, the whole Swift Boat business is a distraction from what’s happening now. I heard yesterday that Moqtada Al-Sadr’s approval ratings in Iraq are at 70%. Before you start up about “the liberal media” I heard it on Fox News. Consider that four months ago the man was a nobody. Now he’s fought the US to a standstill and is spitting in our faces. Iraq is sinking into chaos and Bush is acting as if nothing is wrong. Bush may not even know who Moqtada Al-Sadr is.
5 men died yesterday in Iraq. I’ve noticed the worse Iraq gets the less you guys talk about it.
August 23rd, 2004 at 12:59 pm
“The Kerry campaign is gloating this weekend over the resignation of Bush-Cheney volunteer, former Vietnam War POW Ken Cordier, who’s featured in the latest Swift Boat ad - saying it proves illegal coordination between the Swiftvets’ 527 group and the official Bush campaign.
But Kerry has no plans to fire Zach Exley, a key campaign staffer who served as the organizing director for MoveOn.org throughout the presidential primaries.
What’s more, MoveOn, whose sole mission is to defeat President Bush in November, maintains that Exley is allowed to “communicate” with the 527 group even as he works for the Democratic nominee.”
August 23rd, 2004 at 1:08 pm
Jay you again are absolutely correct.
Planes from the TNG Bush was assigned to were actually in Vietnam so there was absolutely no chance Bush would actually have to face combat. Hmmm.
Kerry on the other hand volunteered for service as part of a group which had never been involved in combat; only after he joined did they see action. Hmmm. Awfully prescient by the war criminal er hero wouldn’t you say? Good fortune for someone chomping at the bit to get into combat.
Actually Jay, I wouldn’t mind talking about Iraq, but “Reporting for Duty” Kerry and his campaign are fixated on Vietnam. They wanted to talk about a war which wrapped up while I was still in diapers. What’s wrong now? Just indulging their requests. Much like President Bush who has already stated on the record that all 527s (which would happen to include the Swift Boat Group) should stop the negative attacks.
Tell you what let’s talk about Kerry’s accomplishments as Lt Gov or as Chair of the Senate Intelligence committee. Doh sorry I made the same mistake as Kerry himself. What can I say, the name Kerrey is seared - seared I say - into my mind. It is easy to make such a mistake.
So ok fine Kerry was an uber hero in Vietnam. Everyone criticizing him is a freaking bold faced liar. Liar Liar pants on fire. Please show me where Bush called on F911 to be censored.
Oh screw it. My side is totally wrong. Tell ya what please regale me with Senator Kerrey’s Senate accomplishments. Damnit, slipped seared memories. Please regale me Senator Kerry’s Senate accomplishments.
Oh by the way just when is Senator Kerry planning on resigning from the Senate in order to campaign full time? Could he be worried if he did that he would be out of a job come Jan 3rd? (The great Bush Depression is giving even Senators concern over their job outlooks!) Hmmm a great show of confidence wouldn’t you say?
August 23rd, 2004 at 5:42 pm
Jay - five men died yesterday in Iraq… I took my turn - why don’t you join the Marine Corps like I did? Kerry betrayed us when he got back as sure as Benedict Arnold did. AND - as cannon points out so well above - he has been a flaming liberal ever since. He has been running on Viet Nam since the beginning - we are willing to talk about his record since then if you are. But, as always your reply will be SEVEN MINUTES!! or some other crap.
August 23rd, 2004 at 11:01 pm
I broke my elbow when I was 19. It kept me out of the Marines because I can’t straighten my arm out all the way. And Kahn, I don’t know you personally, but hese blogs are full of Bush Supporters claiming to be independently wealthy war heroes, and most of them aren’t telling the truth.
You guys have just become smear Kerry all the time. This Vietnam issue will be dead within a week or two. Maybe not in the fantasy world you guys live in where Iraq caused 911, WMDs were found in Iraq, losing overtime pay and massive illegal immigration are positive, and Bush has a forty-point lead in the polls; but to the rest of the nation it will be gone.
BTW, how is that mess with Muqtada Al-Sadr going?
August 24th, 2004 at 12:50 am
Wellll - I’m not wealthy or a war hero. But I am a college educated veteran. You’ve got to realize that the Dems nominated one of the most unsavory characters in the Senate. Not a criminal - but certainly he appears to many to have been an opportunist in Viet Nam. That he came home and launched vile attacks against the war effor that even the North Vietnamese recognized as hurtful to our cause, and that he has had a VERY liberal record in the Senate. Come on, even if you support him, you’ve got to admit that the Cambodia part of the story was crap? Please admit that - or we’ve got to assume you are a robot.
August 24th, 2004 at 2:34 am
Man Jay, quit harping on Vietnam! What about Kerry’s Senate record? Hmmm. Tell me what in Kerry’s Senate record or his time as Lt Gov proves he should be elected. Oh that’s right. In 20+ years Kerry has *NOTHING* to show.
Come on man do try to keep up. Quit living in the past.
August 24th, 2004 at 3:14 pm
Kerry went to Viet Nam! And he did more than just read “My Pet Goat”. And if he ever did he did’nt read it upside down!
August 24th, 2004 at 4:33 pm
So let me get this straight Kerry’s Senate accomplishment is that he went to Vietnam to read My Pet Goat right side up.
What has Kerry done in the Senate? Besides chairing the Intelligence Committee. Oh damn that was Kerrey. So what *HAS* Kerry done? Issue Jay issues. Oh that’s right he ain’t got none. *snerk*
August 25th, 2004 at 11:05 pm
Holy Crap I was right!!! Jay, go re-charge your batteries man- you are a robot! You have absolutely NO credibility after that post.
Now - Cannon is right. Just who is John Kerry? What does he stand for? He has always voted against new weapons systems (- new - if F-15’s were cars they would qualify for antique plates), skipped intelligence meetings, voted to raise taxes and never to cut them, on and on. He is the epitomy of a limousine liberal. NEVER doing anything to lessen his fortune, but always willing to tell us how we should run our lives. Similar to the Rockefeller’s and the Kennedy’s and the Byrd’s, and the Gore’s and the…
August 26th, 2004 at 12:07 pm
Is this like when Bush says he thinks all 527s should be stopped? (even though he signed the bill which created them… there’s a word for that…flep.. floop, fuh…ummmm oh yes, “strong leadership”)
Also, what would you call it when the Bush campaign has people sign papers of endorsement in order to get into their events… I think “censoring those who oppose him” sounds about right.
Matt, If you want to make a serious argument about who’s censoring, you need analyze the actions and positions of both parties and then make your argument.
August 26th, 2004 at 4:54 pm
kevin you poor lost puppy. Bush signed the campaign reform bill based upon the endless droning on of liberals and the press. Come on, please don’t pretend to be stupid. And, at Bush campaign events Bush wants to make sure he keeps out pro-Kerry wackos - is that your issue? So, just for the record - we are putting The Swift boat censorship thing to bed and admitting they are right and we are admitting that Kerry is the most liberal senator and that we have to come up with some other macho crap cover story since the Viet nam thing didn’t work out?
Oh and by the way -
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2026&ncid=2026&e=1&u=/latimests/20040826/ts_latimes/bushedgesaheadofkerryforthe1sttime
I guess now we know why Kerry wants the highly effective ads pulled.
August 26th, 2004 at 8:08 pm
Yes, he wants them pulled because, unfortunately, misleading ads damage the character of a person who proudly served his nation. So you’re admitting that the other side is right with the swift boat ads but then boasting that they had a negative effect. Now that’s something to be proud of. “i spread a rumor about you and now more of the class hates you. it was wrong, but now at least you have less friends. pussy.”
Ever hear of something called ‘working with congress’ in a bi-partisan fashion in order to craft a bill for the common good? Ever hear of the line-item veto? Ever hear of refusing to sign a bill because you disagree so much with a certain part of it? Don’t act like the Bush administration has absolutely no control into what goes into a bill.
Yes, pro-Kerry wackos. They must be insane, Kahn. How very insightful. Way to make it obvious that you’ve really thought about these things.
August 26th, 2004 at 9:30 pm
KK Yes. Bush worked with a dem legistlature in Texas. He worked with Teddy K on the education bill and got stabbed in the back, And yes - serving in the Guard IS serving your country (thanks for agreeing to that).
Bush does not control the Swift Boat guys. Does Kerry control MoveOn.org and ACT? Are you admitting that? Bush tried to silence their negative ads and dem lawyers shot it down - dem lawyers who still work for Kerry and the DNC and ALSO work for these organizations. You are the party of scum pal. Face it.
And honestlty, I have NOT heard anyone effectively counter the statements of this group of EQUALLY DECORATED Viet Nam veterans.
1st Purple Heart
Sanpan incident
Cambodia
Bronze Star story
If you can dirtectly address these items please do (FYI, Silver Star is a different medal - be sure to get your stories staight).
And - what about VVAW - you OK with Kerrys Hero status - in the People Republic of Viet Nam?
August 26th, 2004 at 10:58 pm
I don’t know how you concluded that I’m admitting to coordination between the Kerry campaign and 527s that favor him. I never said anything close to that. And I never said that Bush controls what his supporting 527s put out. I don’t think it’s out of the question, but I have no proof, just like there’s no proof of direct coordination btw the Kerry campaign and groups like Moveon.org. When I said “i spread a rumor” above, I meant the opposition as a group, not Bush. Perhaps I should have said “we” to be more clear.
Lawyers can’t shoot down attempts to silence negative ads. Judges make those kinds of decisions. Ads from 3rd parties can’t be stopped thanks to a little something called the First Amendment. (”Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech…”) Bush is going to get nowhere with his supposed wish to seek legal action against “shadowy” 3rd parties, I give this charade a lifespan of a week.
I am perfectly comfortable with Kerry reporting true accounts of the horrors of war. That’s something this President doesn’t seem to want to avoid very much. I suppose this makes you think I’m a wacko.
And you’re right- I agree that Bush served his country. Never denied that he did. Both candidates have. It’s my opinion that Kerry simply going to Vietnam *at all* (regardless of the specifics of the battles he was in and the awards he won) took a bit more guts than a stint in the Air National Guard. Again, perhaps I’m crazy.
How did Bush get stabbed in the back with the No Child Left Behind bill?
August 27th, 2004 at 9:13 pm
Kennedy has done nothing but critisize him for it ever since. Bush made 4 promises at the GOP convention when he was nominated.
1. Reform Medicare - he did
2. Cut taxes - add it up and it is the biggest cut ever
3. Improve Education - he has vastly increased education spending - instead of praising him, dems say its not enough. FYI, the DC schools system spends the most per student in the country - would you send YOUR kids there? Gore and Clinton wouldn’t.
Social Security - here is his one failing. Commision looked into it and he has done nothing - but hey, 9/11 happened and a war. I guess they diverted his attention.
By the way, this is reality according to NPR this morning - hardly a bastion of conservative values.
Also, I agree with you about the 527’s - they will ALL stay this election. Including the Swift Vets. By trying to divert attention from his liberal past by exploiting Viet Nam, Kerry stepped into a self-made trap. I think he honestly didn’t realize how much hate he had generated as head of VVAW. And, while vets were willing to overlook a fuzzy history and some shaky medals - they were NOT willing to overlook them if he was going to use them as the prime reason to elect him president. So, with that issue out of the way (Kerry will NOT be running on Viet Nam), just what do the dems have besides hatred of GWB? I only see more tax and spend. And I don’t see how anything will be accomplised until the DNC realizes that they have been the minority party for more than a decade and they should learn to act that way. The hatred, in my view stems from when the dems lost the house during the Republican Revolution under Newt Gingrich. THAT is when the hatred began.
August 27th, 2004 at 11:15 pm
Kahn, you were wondering what other issues the Democrats might run on. Here are a few: the fact that poverty is up, family income is down, the middle class pays a bigger part of the tax pie than before Bush’s tax reform, healthcare costs are off the wall and this directly affects the unemployment rate and henceforth the state of the economy, gas prices are much higher, few employers are offering health benefits, outsourcing abroad is rampant, the fact that we’ve lost a lot of respect throughout the world, the fear of women of losing the right to choose, strengthening environmental standards… well you get the picture.
For you, the war on terrorism trumps every other issue. Fine. But for me, and many other people, believe it or not, the rest of Bush’s policies simply aren’t very effective. Maybe you think they’re great, but many respectable, educated people see serious flaws with them. They’re not crazy, Kahn. They are educated opinions, whether you want to admit it or not.
Just because the Bush administration and the GOP controlled Congress changed something doesn’t mean that it was improved. There are serious concerns about the increased power of HMOs and drug companies with the new Medicare structure (aka to you “whining”), many economists agree that the tax cut should have been structured differently so that it put more money into the hands of people who actually spend it (lower and middle class people/families), i could go on. But when Democrats are concerned about these things, it’s not very mature to tease them and call them whiners. Would you rather nobody question how policies are working?
There are even other educated ideas about the best strategy to use against the war on terror. I doubt Bush’s strategy because he told us that the war in Iraq was central to it (hey, he had me believing this and I suppored him!), when it is now well known that it has very little to do with it. Sure, he probably rounded up some terrorists, but you know what, he created a lot more hatred for the US and a lot more terrorists! You can’t win this war with the approach Bush is using. Now I hope you don’t dismiss this perfectly valid opinion as “wacko”.
Dude, only like 3 members of the House or the Senate send their kids to public school. They’re rich.
August 28th, 2004 at 10:27 pm
KK - find a post were I said Terrorism trumps every other issue. Try reading instead of wallowing in stereotype. Cand anyone tell the wonder boy what MY pet subject really is?
KK - The fact is, the Dems controlled both houses of congress for decades often with Dem presidents and left these issues unsolved. The Reagan tax cuts helped revive an awful economy after Carter. But the real tech bubble that Clinton road was the need to rebuild or test the entire computing infrastructure in a run-up to 2000. Frankly, the boom wasn’t his doing and neither was the crash. Neither was it Bush’s. Since we are recovering from an artificially high bubble - growth will not be like the 90’s.
I have heard Bush referred to as the most conservative president in decades and called an extremeist. Bullshit.
Environment -
1. the dems wanted to lower mercury emmisions to levels lower than existing background - that would mean power plants would have to actually put out cleaner air than they sucked in?
2. Bush is allowing the cutting of roads for logging. Oh my God? logging roads - the world is ending?
3. Bush backed out of Kyoto - This was an unratified treaty - read the constitution - he stated a fact - we are not part of the agreement.
Education - yes, he DID improve it and far more than the dems did in their 40 years in power.
Campaign finance reform. - Great, did what you wanted and you invented MoveOn.org as thanks.
Welafe and medicare. Serious questions??? Thanks for the non-specifics. He DID reform it - and yes, they still have problems. I think that Bill Cosby might have some views you should read.
How many times did you use the word educated? I get your point, and I guess you are still getting your - education I mean.
Terrorism - YOU don’t think that is the major issue. I watched an interview with former NYC mayor Ed Koch yesterday. He said that Kerry will say whatever he thinks his immediate audience wants to hear and can’t be trusted. AND, he said he was voting for and supporting Bush for exactly that reason (terrorism). He does not believe (nor do I) that the Dems have the will to win that war. I guess you prove it. Thanks for your post. It was well written and expressed your views well. I just disagree. Now we are both free to vote.
August 29th, 2004 at 11:50 am
The Left is really outthere. I fear there will come a time in the not too distant future (20 years) when they are going to begin locking up people for “hate speech”. What’s hate speech? Anything they say it is. These folks simply believe they know existential truth. If you don’t agree with them, shut up or get out of the way.
September 17th, 2004 at 2:41 pm
John Kerry won 3 purple hearts.