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Joe Wilson Is A Liar
By Matt Margolis | July 10, 2004
The extent to which the anti-Bush forces in the country will go to try and undermine our great President reaches new lows constantly… Adding to the growing list is the revelation that the Joe Wilson assertions regarding Iraq seeking yellowcake Uranium from Africa are lies. The Washington Post Reports:
Former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, dispatched by the CIA in February 2002 to investigate reports that Iraq sought to reconstitute its nuclear weapons program with uranium from Africa, was specifically recommended for the mission by his wife, a CIA employee, contrary to what he has said publicly.
Wilson last year launched a public firestorm with his accusations that the administration had manipulated intelligence to build a case for war. He has said that his trip to Niger should have laid to rest any notion that Iraq sought uranium there and has said his findings were ignored by the White House.
Wilson’s assertions — both about what he found in Niger and what the Bush administration did with the information — were undermined yesterday in a bipartisan Senate intelligence committee report.
The panel found that Wilson’s report, rather than debunking intelligence about purported uranium sales to Iraq, as he has said, bolstered the case for most intelligence analysts. And contrary to Wilson’s assertions and even the government’s previous statements, the CIA did not tell the White House it had qualms about the reliability of the Africa intelligence that made its way into 16 fateful words in President Bush’s January 2003 State of the Union address.
There’s more…
The report also said Wilson provided misleading information to The Washington Post last June. He said then that he concluded the Niger intelligence was based on documents that had clearly been forged because “the dates were wrong and the names were wrong.”
“Committee staff asked how the former ambassador could have come to the conclusion that the ‘dates were wrong and the names were wrong’ when he had never seen the CIA reports and had no knowledge of what names and dates were in the reports,” the Senate panel said. Wilson told the panel he may have been confused and may have “misspoken” to reporters. The documents — purported sales agreements between Niger and Iraq — were not in U.S. hands until eight months after Wilson made his trip to Niger.
Kevin Patrick, over at Blogs For Bush asks the following question:
Now when Joe Wilson had tons of fabricated things to say against the Bush White House he was a media darling, getting top billing on all news shows and evening news programs. How much time do you imagine any of these news shows or evening news programs will spend telling the public that everything they reported was lies?
UPDATE: Sisu weighs in on this story.
UPDATE: Captain Ed says:
The Senate Intelligence Committee also leaves open the possibility that the British (and now the French) were entirely correct about the attempted purchase, and scolds the CIA for bungling the investigation
UPDATE: Down Range links to a bunch of bloggers talking about this story…
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July 11th, 2004 at 10:14 pm
Whether Joe Wilson lied or not it doesn’t change the gravity of outing Valerie Wilson as a CIA agent purely for political spite. And I don’t see the “liberal media” talking about Joe Wilson as a hero. The Bush Administration said they would look into it a year ago and we haven’t heard of the matter since.
Kind of like when Fox News reports that WMDs have been found. The story eventually always proves false but Fox never follows up to report THAT now do they?
July 11th, 2004 at 11:22 pm
Jay… that has NOTHING to do with this.. don’t try and change the subject…
and i guess chemical weapons aren’t WMDs in your book.
July 12th, 2004 at 2:08 am
I’m so sick of hearing “Well, the LIBERAL midea says” or “Well, the CONSERVATIVE media says…”
It’s a dumb sensationalizt media. They udually don’t have political affiliation, they just wanna worship the almighty dollar
July 12th, 2004 at 11:24 am
If Joe is lying, how does that change the compromising of national security in order to punish him? The Bush Administration would only have to prove that Wilson was lying and that would be that. Instead they outed his wife and put her and other peoples’ (maybe even yours and mine) lives on the line.
And no WMDs have been found. If they had, Bush would have been trumpeting the news everywhere. He hasn’t even talked about WMDs this entire year.
July 12th, 2004 at 12:33 pm
I’ll stipulate to Joe Wilson being a liar if you’ll stipulate to the Plame outing being an act of extraordinary political mendacity deserving a felony conviction for a “Senior Bush Administration Official” under a law passed with strong support from George HW Bush.
Deal?
July 12th, 2004 at 5:49 pm
Jay, we are not talking about his wife. We’re talking about the fact that he, Joe Wilson, was lying. If you refuse to address this issue, then don’t waste my time…
July 12th, 2004 at 7:12 pm
And he’s referring to what happened to Joe Wilson because of it. They’re related. What he’s saying is “fine, if he’s lying, why don’t they just say it? Why did they do what they did, and was it right?”
July 12th, 2004 at 9:24 pm
You people are pathetic.. you can’t even accept the fact that Joe Wilson lied and that totally destroys the liberal uproar over “those 16 words”.. you just try and change the subject to something else..
July 12th, 2004 at 11:48 pm
Interesting. I never posted anything about him lying or not. All I did was clarify what Jay was trying to say.
I personally don’t recall even hearing the name Joe Wilson before now, nor do I remember any of the alligations he apparently fired off. So I really don’t care if he lied or not. Did he lie? Hell, I don’t know, and once more, I don’t care.
Oh, and if we arn’t allowed to insult you, please refrain from insulting us. I understand it’s your blog, but a little politeness from both sides won’t hurt.
July 13th, 2004 at 1:57 am
OK Kyle, so you never heard of him (you ignorant slu…SNL reference)
He’s the guy who lied about Intelligence on Iraq’s nuclear ambitions and attempts to get Nigerian “yellow Cake” Uranium. As part of the uproar over his story it became known that his wife was a clandestine CIA operative.
Novak, the one who wrote about says it was NOT a senior administration official who told him. The word around the beltways is that she wasn’t really that clandestine anymore and quite a few reporters knew who she was. Fuzzy details actually.
Point is, Wilson was the source for numerous anti-Bush, anti-war, and in my opinion anti-USA stories in major newspapers and on TV (You live in a cave by the way?) Turns out - he was a lying piece of liberal crap willing to hurt the war effort to gain notoriety and further the liberal cause. Thing is, now that he’s a known liar - no-one seems willing to run the story. Hmmmm
July 13th, 2004 at 3:02 am
I don’t watch TV. It’s stupid, and the media is worthless anyways. Any objections to that statement?
And the story isn’t run, because a lot of people probebly wouldn’t react to it too much. The media is out for sensationalism, because that’s what sells. Maybe if he shot a few people, then the story would run :p
July 13th, 2004 at 1:10 pm
Does anyone know if Wilson is even mentioned in the Conclusions of the Pre-War Intelligence Report?
The report PDF document is scanned, so text search cannot be done.
There is a reference at the bottom of page 10 to “the spouse of the CIA employee”, but this section describes incompetence of the Intelligence Community, including “a failure, to this day, to call a telephone number, provided by the Navy, of an individual who claimed to have information about Iraq’s alleged efforts to acquire uranium from Niger”
In other words, the Washington Post article seems to be FALSE.
July 13th, 2004 at 1:20 pm
that’s the most bizarre conclusion i’ve ever seen.
July 13th, 2004 at 4:43 pm
Did you read the report?
July 14th, 2004 at 12:54 am
I just saw it quoted on FOX where they said that Wilsons wife recommended him for the job of looking into it. That sheds some light onto how her name came up. She recommended him then wrote a memo furthering the recommendation - even NPR questions his motives!!!!
July 16th, 2004 at 12:53 am
This is from an e-mail I got and I don’t know the source - cool though!
Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good…
Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad…
Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good…
Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad…
Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good…
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad…
Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists -
good…
Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad…
Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good…
Bush bombs terrorist camps - bad…
Clinton commits felonies while in office - good…
Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad…
Clinton says mass graves in Serbia - good…
Entire world says WMD in Iraq - bad…
No mass graves found in Serbia - good…
No WMD found Iraq - bad…
Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good…
Economy slows under Bush - bad…
Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good…
World Trade Centers fall under Bush - bad…
Clinton says Saddam has nukes - good…
Bush says Saddam has nukes - bad…
Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good…
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad…
Terrorist training in Afghanistan under Clinton - good…
Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad…
Milosevic not yet convicted - good…
Saddam turned over for trial - bad…
July 18th, 2004 at 5:33 pm
I still can’t understand the sheer stupidity of the morons who say there have been no WMDs found. What about the roadside bombs with sarin gas? Do these idiots think Saddam only made two or three? And these were of the variety where the chemicals mix in flight…a variety the UN didn’t know they had.