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Flipper Flips Off Vet
By Matt Margolis | June 2, 2004
I wonder if John Kerry will say that this was supposed to be off the record:
Democratic senator - and certain presidential nominee - John F. Kerry gave the middle finger to a Vietnam veteran at the Vietnam Memorial Wall on Memorial Day morning, NewsMax.com has learned.
Ted Sampley, a former Green Beret who served two full tours in Vietnam, spotted Kerry and his Secret Service detail at about 9:00 a.m. Monday morning at the Wall. Sampley walked up to Kerry, extended his hand and said, “Senator, I am Ted Sampley, the head of Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, and I am here to escort you away from the Wall because you do not belong here.”
At that point a Secret Service officer told Sampley to back away from Kerry. Sampley moved about 6 feet away and opened his jacket to reveal a HANOI JOHN T-shirt.
Kerry then began talking to a group of schoolchildren. Sampley then showed the T-shirt to the children and said, “Kerry does not belong at the Wall because he betrayed the brave soldiers who fought in Vietnam.”
Just then Kerry - in front of the school children, other visitors and Secret Service agents - brazenly ‘flashed the bird’ at Sampley and then yelled out to everyone, “Sampley is a felon!”
Is that behavior appropriate for someone who wants to be President of the United States - the Commander-In-Chief of our Armed Forces? We all should know by now that John Kerry is a Vietnam Veteran, and he ’s been trying to portray himself as a veteran’s veteran, but clearly, all veterans are not equal to Kerry. Only the ones who campaign with him, or appear in his campaign ads, or who act as his surrogates matter to him.
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June 2nd, 2004 at 10:12 am
Ted Sampley isn’t playing with a full deck. He smeared John McCain, a true American patriot and now is trying to do the same to MCCain. Sampley is a nut job who has circulated doctored photos about McCain and Fonda over the internet and was once arrested and subject to restraining order for stalking McCain. If Kerry really flashed Sampley the bird (I say if because your “source” is Newsmax, lol)is it any worse than Bush calling Adam Clymer a “major leauge you know what” on natinonal t.v. or Bush’s daddy bragging about how he “kicked a little a**” to a reporter? I think you are ridiculously hyporcritical in the standards you hold Kerry and not Bush to.
June 2nd, 2004 at 1:43 pm
NewsMax is your source… nice try buddy. Its not even on Drudge? Your breathless scandalmongering is truly pathetic.
June 2nd, 2004 at 3:29 pm
Even O’Reilly laughed at the transparent falsehood of this story.
June 2nd, 2004 at 11:10 pm
WRONG! The double standard is that CANDIDATE Bush was critisized to no end for (correctly) calling an asshole an asshole and Kerry gets a free ride. Sampley? I guess two tours in Viet Nam as a Green Beret makes you passionate when you see hypocracy. Kerry’s Silver Star is NOT a free ticket. He DID turn on the vets when he came back. And, he did claim to have committed attrocities (real ones, not naked pyramids), and to have witnessed them, and testified to that effect in Congress. His book (ever read it?) is pathetic. If not, then why is it not in print or readily available? No, Sampley is right in his position on Kerry. Note, only two peole from his crew are behind him. ALL the rest of the crew, and ALL the rest of the guys from his unit DO NOT SUPPORT him.
His plan to protect us from nuclear terror - forbid the Pentagon from developing bunker bust nukes. Brilliant - I knew the Pentagon was gunning for New York and L.A. And North Korea will certainly stop their nuke program now!
June 3rd, 2004 at 1:04 am
Genghis or whatever turd breath happens to call himself is way out their. In this case Sampley was the asshole and btw Kahn, the big bomb about Kerrys “whole” crew being against him turned out to be shat its more or less just sampley. Even McCain calls the guy scum.
June 3rd, 2004 at 9:30 am
Kahn, the double standard (and the right never tires of using them) is that Bush actually called Clymer an a hole and we have it on tape. There isn’t a scintilla of evidence that this event actually happened, other than Newsmax (lol).
June 3rd, 2004 at 11:23 am
And what did clymer do personally to Bush? In this case Sampley was acting like a big smelly douche towards Kerry.
June 3rd, 2004 at 10:54 pm
Um Yea - call me names, then learn to spell.
1. Sampley was not on his crew. And yes, I know he’s a little bit over-the-top.
2. Kerry’s crew has come out against him as have most if not all people in his unit.
So your point, I guess is that it is OK for a liberal to flip off someone in public, or call them names Like you have to me) , or whatever because conservatives deserve it? I notice the libs here fell free to call me and other conservatives names. I will refrain from questioning your parentage - though I wonder about the value of cross species breeding.
Earnon - OK, so what about the fact that the press did catch Kerry on tape laughing about Bush falling off his bike and making the training wheels joke - but chose to run a crafted statement from Kerry rather than the truth? What about the fact that libs post a reward for people who remember serving with Bush (then fail to pay when a retired colonel comes forward) and ignore that fact that the doctor who treated Kerry for his first Purple Heart said the wound was a tiny sliver he pulled out with tweezers -and his crew told him was self inficted when Kerry fired mortars too close to shore? No, there is obviously a double standard. And, wasn’t Bush in front of what he thought was a cold mic? And by the way, I agree with him about Clym. Other libs have called me much worse in these boards. But again, I must deserve it for being conservative.
June 4th, 2004 at 1:26 am
The doctor who said kerrys wound was minor was not the doctor that vetted kerrys medal, its not like kerry awarded the medal to himself. I wouldnt have laughed at you if you werent such a tool willing to jump on any Newsmax crap.
June 4th, 2004 at 8:07 am
Back that up with the name of the doctor who did treat him then. And by the way - I’m just arguing my views. I wonder if your letting this deteriorate into name calling is just your typical vile nature (which makes you a great Democrat) or a purposeful technique to draw attention away from your lame arguments.
June 4th, 2004 at 11:00 am
“its not like kerry awarded the medal to himself”
he nominated himself for it.
June 4th, 2004 at 12:15 pm
Kahn you think much to highly of yourself, lets just say Kerry got that Purple Heart for a minor wound, he still has two others and his silver star/bronze star, the only think W won was a drinking contest.
June 4th, 2004 at 12:21 pm
Kahn, A few points. I have no idea nor do you if Bush thought it was a cold mike. That’s certainly his excuse, but it doesn’t matter because he SAID it regardless. YOu have to be pretty dumb to not be careful about whether your mic is on in a situation like that. As for the retired colonel, he has ZERO credibility. He claims to remember Bush serving with him when Bush doesn’t even claim to have been there. He claims he served with Bush prior to Bush’s own claim of service. He also says he’s not sure of the number of times he was with Bush but seems to know that Bush attended every session. (How is it possible to know that someone attended “all” meetings if you don’t know the exact number). And no, it not proven at all that Kerry got a self inflicted wound and in any case, it still means he was in combat, something Bush was too terrified to engage in, the coward that he is and always has been.
June 4th, 2004 at 6:19 pm
OK, well I was just responding to your inane and hateful posts. Um Yea made a claim, now refuses to back it up. Earnon doesn’t make the claim, just claims doesn’t matter.
The FACT is that the doctor that treated Kerry said it was a “minor” wound all right. A tiny metal sliver he pulled out with tweazers. The reason it matters is that he says that Kerrys crew told him he got it when he fired mortars too close to shore, and by the way not at enemy - just ptactising. So, that makes that a falsly claimed medal. Purple hearts are for wound sustained in hostile action against the enemy. So, he left the country (after two months) based on a technicality that was met with a possibly falsly obtained medal.
Kerry’s crew said that he was medal fishing during his VERY VERY short stay with them. He constantly talked about how he was going to be the next JFK. In Viet Nam at that time, they handed medals out like water. The Silver Star, yes - I applaud him on that. But, I was a Marine, and frankly - stopping under fire to pull someone from the water is brave. But, I’ve seen many such acts that were not rewarded with Silver Stars.
Yes. Bush went the Air Guard route. Though flying those crappy jets he flew was actually pretty dangerous. He has a few months in (what was it, Alabama) where he was on temp duty that he can not prove he was there. That does not mean he was not there - it just means he can’t prove it - and you in your heart agree with that.
Sampley, aware of how shamefully Kerry treated his Viet-Nam “brothers-in-arms” hates Kerry. So, did Kerry flip him off? You’re right - it was not on tape. And what is the meaning of is, and OJ is innocent. You have to disconnect the two people - your hatred of Bush does not make Kerry good. Just as my disdain for Kerry does not make Bush good. You can’t answer a question about one by spewing hatred for the other.
That seems to be all the democrats have - hatred. You are a lot like the Nazis. No wonder that Robert Byrd didn’t feel he needed to leave the party when he stopped paying his KKK dues. By the way, did you know that over it’s history the KKK was filled with appx 97% democrats? Not really relevant - just an interesting statistic.
June 4th, 2004 at 7:54 pm
Comparing Democrats to Nazis? That is hyperdole to the worst degree. I’m liberal, I disagree with Bush, it does not mean I hate him. Sure I bet some people do hate Bush, certainly not every Democrat and certainly not to the degree or in the way Nazis hated people. Your view is also an assumption and based on stereotypes, the kind of thing Nazis used.
I’m not really surprised by the KKK statistic, the Democratic party has changed greatly since the KKK’s heyday. The Democratic party use to be dominant in the South and that is where the KKK drew most of its support. As soon as Democrats began fighting for civil rights legislation this ended, the Democrat party became the one of tolerance and respect for diversity and I’m sure the Dixiecrats and other disillusioned people stopped all support for the Democrats.
June 4th, 2004 at 8:08 pm
Why not, Soros and MoveOn.org compared Bush to Hitler. Soros last night said that the attocities in Iraq were as bad a 9/11. Really? naked pyramids as bad as flaming death? No - the “No W” stickers and the blind hatred for Bush spewed by Democrats seem to me to be the ONLY story the Dems have. Bush has not done a bad job on many Dem issues. So much so that many conservatives think he’s made government too big. I know I’m not happy with his gun rights stance. Read these p[osts - listen to the stuff mainstream Dems say about us conservatives. During the “Republican Revolution” Dem after dem called us terrorists and said we had a gun to the head of the nation. Right wing attack machine, anti-black (REPUBLICAN CONGRESS PASSED THE CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS - NOT DEMOCRAT. No, Bush had a reputaion for smoothing waters and working with the Dems in Texas. Texas Dems even endorsed him. The Hatred and Partisanship of the Dems have been the most influencing thing (outside 9/11) in Washington. Yes - that is all the Nazi’s had - and that is all the Dems have. I stand by my statement.
June 4th, 2004 at 8:35 pm
Kahn, the right is king when it comes to comparing people to nazis. Femi Nazis, Hitlery etc…. btw yeah a lot democrats used to be in the KKK and racists, but then a lot of them became Republicans like Strom Thurmond.
June 4th, 2004 at 9:04 pm
most of them were democrats/dixiecrats. i.e. robert byrd…
June 4th, 2004 at 9:05 pm
Right wing attack machine? I think your just looking at the negatives of some Democrats and not the positives aspects of the great majority of them. I do not agree with Soros or Moveon.com, they were wrong to compare Bush to Hitler, their actions do not justify your comparsions. More people have died in Iraq than in 9/11, but obviously the former is not an atrocity like the latter.
Its true that what liberals want usually requires more spending, just because Bush spends a lot does not mean he is doing a good job on Dem issues. Much of the major legislation Bush supported privatized parts of some social programs or changed regulations on enviromental standards. And his tax cut that gave the most back to the rich was passed which very few Dems wanted. His positions on gay marriage and abortion are also in conflict with many Democrat’s beliefs.
I think special interests and their lobbying groups are the single most important influence on Washington. They provide a great deal of money needed for political campaigns and they have much say on politician’s policies because of that. Both parties will insult each other and make exaggerations, I think both parties are more moderate and alike than each side’s rhetoric suggests. If the Democrats were driven completely by hate, each and everyone one of them, you would still not see anything comparable to what the Nazis were. Nazis were militaristic and nationalistic sobs who killed millions of people because of their extreme prejudices. Calling Democrats or the president or anyone Nazis is just too much.
June 4th, 2004 at 10:55 pm
Um yeah - or just stayed in the Democratic party like current senator from West Virginia Byrd. Yes - you miss the point as always. The Democrats spew a message of class hatred, class envy, and class warfare. They repeat lies and slander against Republicans over and over and over. You’re right - femi-nazi, eco-nazi, it’s because all these groups are related, all use the same tactics, and all teach hate. You hate me now don’t you? Be honest about it butthead.
MilesDavis - who introduced Soros last night and sat behind him giving applause? Hillory Clinton. In fact, the event was a pretty mainstream Democratic party event. No - I don’t mean Nazi like fire up the oven nazi (though they came close at Waco - remember?). I mean the fact that they contiuously spew hatred. The revile republicans and say so often. That is why the press, and so many Dems think its OK to flip off this vet - HE DESERVED IT, OK to joke about Bush falling off his bike - HE DESERVED IT, OK that the local Dem prosecuter in FLA goes on a fishing expedition in Rush Limbaughs medical records - HE DESERVES IT. Jesse Jackson makes a living threatening people with black activism unless they cave AND pay him, Clark Rangel said we kidnapped Aristead and forced him to go to Africa. It’s just too much! What about the rants that Dean goes on, or Gore? For crying outloud - if Gore isn’t mainstream Dem than who is? I tell you, willingness to justify hostile actions against any people with different beliefs is EXACLTY what the Nazi’s were all about. And, it’s exactly what the Dems are about.
June 5th, 2004 at 1:20 am
Kahn did that make sense to you?
June 5th, 2004 at 1:32 am
Tell me if I’m off base here. IF Sampley was in Kerrys face, and IF Kerry flipped him off - it would be OK right? Because Sampley would have deserved it - right?
June 5th, 2004 at 2:37 am
Kahn did you hear about the kid at Princeton who threw a pie in Sharons face and got his ass kicked by his bodyguards?
That did not upset me, im a firm believer in people who act like assholes not getting off scot free. Sampley was going way out of his way (IF THIS EVEN FARKING HAPPENED) to piss off Kerry. Bush called the guy at the times an asshole when the guy wasnt even communicating to him in anyway, even then Bush mocked a woman about to put to death. He really is a fucking moron.
June 5th, 2004 at 11:09 am
OK am, once again - what does Bush have to do with Kerry. So - if I read you right, it was OK since Sampley DESERVED IT. And, with the circle of press around Kerry, I would venture that stuff like this happens all the time and they cover up for him. He is certainly to much of an asshole to lead the USA.
As to your rant about Bush mocking some woman - sorry, I don’t know what you’re talking about. Back it up with a full story and I’ll think about it. I do know that Bush graduated yale with better grades than Gore, has a Harvard MBA, took his family money, and grew it substantially, and though he didn’t go to Viet Nam - DID fly fighter. Yah, and idiot. So is it the dem position that he maniacally manipulated into an Iraq war and is an idiot at the same time? That must make you all sub-morons.
By the way
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The democrats in the Senate play you libs for fools. THEY are the rich Americans. They spew crap you moron libs lap up, while making sure no government money comes out of their own pockets.
June 5th, 2004 at 11:28 am
Sampley was provoking him, I dont know if Clymer even talked to Bush ever. Til you can get this through your sloping forehead there is no hope for you.
June 5th, 2004 at 11:36 am
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June 5th, 2004 at 12:06 pm
am - does the man with a nuclear arsenal at his command get to be a hot blooded wacko? That is THE point. So what if he was provoked! JOHN KERRY WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. And, he is an asshole - get that through your skull. First, stop licking your dogs nuts and pay attention. (Insults be beget insults fuckhead)
Did Bush talk to Clymer? What a stupid question. Who cares - he READ HIS WORK. Just like I’ve read your and know that YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE.
June 5th, 2004 at 2:36 pm
You are a fucking moron. Bush is a fucking moron. You guys make a great couple.
June 5th, 2004 at 4:06 pm
Um yeah. Again, Harvard BBA GPA 3.96. Marine Officer. Happily married business owner. All you’ve got is insults and hate. You poor poor soul. Now, go back to licking your dogs crotch and let the grown-ups talk OK?
June 5th, 2004 at 10:08 pm
Still doesnt explain why your head is so far up your ass.
June 5th, 2004 at 10:13 pm
BTW I dont want to call you a liar, but do you honestly expect me to believe you? If youa re telling the truth then Harvard is really really a fucking joke.
June 5th, 2004 at 10:23 pm
Well, there ya go proving my point. By the way, my point is now that Democrats only have hatred and no viable ideas. Insults - the hallmark of every one of your posts.You are the epitomy of the liberal Democrat. Foggy in your thinking, vile in your language, and dereft of ideas. I still am waiting to see your thoughts on the original subject of this blog. But, I’m sure you’ll respond with more mis-direction and insults. It is, again, all you have. I only hope you think about that some time after you post.
June 5th, 2004 at 11:02 pm
I believe its bereft mr harvard grad.
June 5th, 2004 at 11:08 pm
Have to look it up? Again, dodge and jab. You prove my point with every word you shrill wacko.
June 5th, 2004 at 11:10 pm
And yes - I make frequent use of my spellchecker software. I don’t type very well.
June 5th, 2004 at 11:15 pm
Wait wait wait! I just realized! I’ve read your posts - absolutely no answers to any points! ONLY misdirection and insults. Gee, who would have thought? Senator Kerry? Is that you?
June 5th, 2004 at 11:47 pm
What poiny did you ever make? I proved that Bush has done a lot worse shit then give a man provoking him the finger. What do you actually want me to refute your Democrats are Nazis babble?
June 6th, 2004 at 8:23 am
Nope just this blog. Which is not about Bush - its about Kerry. Misdirection and insults. Sounds Nazi to me. You are an ass. So is Kerry, so is AP. This blog is done except for repetitive insults now.
June 6th, 2004 at 1:00 pm
Did that make sense to you? In fact you just sidestepped my request for any “points” you happen to have made.
June 6th, 2004 at 1:26 pm
Um Yeah, you’re the one who comes here all the time spewing nonsensical hate speech.. who are you to criticize?
June 6th, 2004 at 3:36 pm
Well I do come over here to rattle the rush bot cages, as for nonsensical and hate speech look in a fucking mirror you ass spelonker.
June 7th, 2004 at 6:56 pm
Kahn. You are a hypocrite of the worst order. You namecall and then squeal like a pig when others do the same to you. Your posts are full of lies and vitriol, yet you accuse the democrats of having nothing but hate. You claim to have a Harvard education, but can’t spell simple words like “Hillary” (helpful hint of the day: There is no “O” in “Hillary”.
June 8th, 2004 at 9:08 pm
Jose,
I have never insulted anyone FIRST. Check for youself and cite an example if you can. Please tell me one example of a lie I have told. And, yes I get a little passionate typing here and there is no spell check.
You are typical of the democrats - few if any ever answer the questions in the title of the blog. Instead, the posts follow a pattern of diversion and derision. Or, answer any point but the subject, and insult the poster. You post follow that. 1. Accuse me of lies. 2. Critsize my spelling (oh my!) 3, Fail to answer or discuss any of the core bog subjects. There you are. Hate, Hate, Hate - it’s all you Dems have.
By the way, if Kerry did flip off a Green Beret with two years of Vietnam under his belt (not two months) then I’d guess it was with the comfort that he was surrounded by Secret Service and wouldn’t need to do anything about it. Maybe the blog should be - Kerry flips off a vet from the security of his Secret Service bodyguards. I wonder, if a person being guarded picks a fight, does the Secret Service still have to protect him? Doesn’t seem fair.
June 9th, 2004 at 11:40 am
Kahn, ALL you do is call names. You come across like a four year old, (although your spelling isn’t as good). Quit pretending to have a Harvard Education,because you clearly don’t have one. I have a hard time believing you graduated from High School. When called on it you resort to “I didn’t hit the spell check”, although I wonder why anyone would need spellcheck to know that “Hillory” is incorrect. As for hatred, look in the mirror, buddy. All you do is call names, Clymer is an a hole, Kerry is this or that, and to top it off, you seem to have an unhealthy obsession with canine sex. Grow up little boy and stop pretending to be a Harvard Grad.
June 9th, 2004 at 4:56 pm
And the relevant point to the blog is what? I am what I am. Born in Mass. Educated in Mass. Marines, etc. I grew up around you liberal wackos. Had the nuns bring Viet Nam Vets Against the War right into class to give us their stupid propoganda. And had to suffer through the crap even worse at college. Even in the business school, the liberal crap was overwhelming.
Please point out to me one person above that I called a name FIRST. Nope. Your message is typical. Diversion and derision. Nothing about Kerry, you divert attention to me. Critisize my spelling, leap all over the humility and admited self failings as if they are an excuse. Then, practically call me a liar (lets see - not in so many words, but saying I didn’t tell the truth, thats what lieing is right? Let me call pres. Clinton and ask him). And guess what, Hillory is a name. Not in spellcheck, and I might look it up IF I CARED HOW TO SPELL IT.
All I do is call names? Since I have yet to do it first, I guess that says something about you “liberals”. Here is YOUR first entry into this: “Genghis or whatever turd breath happens to call himself is way out their.” Note - “their” is a possesive pronoun. Guess its spelled right though. You idiot (certainly I get that shot after you tirade). You have contributed nothing but derision. Your movement is intelectually bankrupt and all you have is hate. Maybe when GW wins in November you and your kind will shut up for awhile.