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Paris’s “Honorable” Cop Killer
By Matt Margolis | October 6, 2003
As if there wasn’t already enough reasons to hate France. Convicted cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal has been made an honorary citizen of Paris.
An honorary citizen? For what? For killing a cop in cold blood? This is just sick – absolutely sick.
The cop killer has been bestowed with an honor last given to Pablo Picasso back in 1971.
At the ceremony commemorating this travesty of morality, black activist Angela Davis hailed the cop killer’s “profound sense of humanity.”
I must have missed the memo that said that humanity meant killing a police officer in cold blood. No moral and decent person could ever say such a thing. These are the words of a person who is as evil as the cop killer himself.
Davis spewed out more stupidity when she said that the Free Mumia movement “takes on a new sense in face of American unilateralism, the aggression against the Iraqi people and the racist attacks against immigrants which can only further gnaw away at the vestiges of democracy in the United States.”
What?!?!?! This woman is insane. The Free Mumia movement is established on the canonization of a cold-blooded cop killer who has duped mindless leftists into believing he is innocent when the evidence overwhelmingly condemns him. It thrives on the anti-establishment bigotry of individuals who believe that blacks are always the victims of racism from “white America.”
When Michel Savage says, “liberalism is not a political position, it is a mental disorder,” we can see this quite clearly by looking at the Free Mumia movement.
Liberals and leftists have been brainwashed into believing that supporting this cop killer is an exhibition of political, social, and mental aptitude because of a distorted belief that only by being anti-establishment and dissenting against authority that you are actually a free thinking person and patriotic. They believe they actually stand for justice because of their deep-rooted hatred for so-called “white oppression” or some other bullshit liberal cliché that they choose to rally behind.
And France has just officially bought into the scam. They’ve honored the cop killing fraud that has brainwashed weak-minded liberals all across the world who are desperate to rally behind a poster child for the “oppressed black man” who’s a victim of the “white oppressive establishment.”
These people who support the cop killer are the antithesis of everything good about humanity.
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October 6th, 2003 at 4:11 pm
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/950721.html
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/950811.html
October 6th, 2003 at 4:29 pm
You are one of the millions of duped people.
You clearly haven’t read this book.
October 6th, 2003 at 5:33 pm
why does it not surprise me that the Deanzoid “UM Yeah” would defend a cop killer - and they wonder why they have lost every branch of government - no wondering on my part
October 6th, 2003 at 9:23 pm
Your sheer brilliance for proving Matt’s point is as eloquent as your name, Um Yeah.
October 6th, 2003 at 10:20 pm
As much as I love watching Conservative Lynch Mobs get all riled up. One I trust the Straight Dope more than “Accuracy in Academia”. Two there is a chance he didnt do it failing that it still might not fall under the title of Murder in the first or even Murder. Three, Eye Witness testimony can be crap. Lastly, we did a case study in my law class today where a man claimed he was sleep walking when he stabbed his wife 44 times. This wasnt the first time either, A man managed to convince the jusry he drove 14 miles killed his mother-in-law and drove home while sleep walking and got off. These guys were white.
Mumia is black, I dont know all the facts, but it seems much more complicated than him just deciding to shoot a Cop.
October 6th, 2003 at 10:21 pm
* Im not saying he is innocent (Though it is possible) by the way, I just believe they were right in sparing the death penalty.
October 6th, 2003 at 11:17 pm
“Mumia is black, I dont know all the facts, but it seems much more complicated than him just deciding to shoot a Cop.”
It was OJ way before OJ!!! It was the MAN oppressin black folk!!!
October 6th, 2003 at 11:37 pm
cannon please STFU.
October 7th, 2003 at 1:18 am
UY, if you don’t know all the facts (as you stated yourself) then I find it hard to believe you can act as if you know enoguh about the case to have an educated opinion on it. I, on the other hand, have done actual research on it - from varying sources of varying viewpoints.
It’s not my intent to get into a debate over the facts of the case, because that’s been done before in plenty of other places, and I have no desire to delve into it at this point in time.
Regardless of that, I’d think even you UY, could see that there is something a bit wrong with someone like Mumia, (who was convicted of murdering Daniel Faulkner, a police officer) has been bestowed with such an honor. Even someone who doubts his guilt or innocence has to find this story just insane.
October 7th, 2003 at 1:59 am
Since you asked so nicely Um Idiot… No. But just to be fair I will give it a second thought, um no. (Who ever said Conservatives aren’t opened minded.)
Awww did I touch a nerve Um Whatever? Did your half considered (in your mind why should you consider anything you type since the thoughts are self evident, correct? Gawd, don’t we know anything?) words come back to bite you?
Let me ask you this? (Actually I am really interested in the reply, honestly.) Why do you post here or on the various other boards I see your posts? (Granted you might post other places where your ideological kin hang out, but I don’t go to those places so I don’t know.)
Do you expect that one time one of your posts are going to make even one person change their mind and say, “Ya know that kid Um Yeah is right I am wrong. Wow my whole life is a sham.”
You posted over at the Emperor’s Place for a while and now you are here. It makes about as much sense as me trying to post over at the DU or indymedia and is about as effective.
Man life is too short, give up the hate or forever will it consume your destiny.
Oh and Matt I don’t know if getting an honorary Frog citizenship should be considered an honor… Isn’t it more cruel and unusual punishment? I mean the only thing worse would to be an actual Frog.
October 7th, 2003 at 8:44 am
How can anyone trust something called “The Straight Dope”?????
Using slang in the name? Come on…
October 7th, 2003 at 9:48 am
Matt, it’s france. Don’t waste your anger on such a pisshole of a country.
What did you expect - decency? You may be waiting awhile.
October 7th, 2003 at 10:36 am
I dont know every single fact Matt, but I know more than you.
Let me put it to you this way, I have done a fair amount of looking into it. There is a chance that he did not do it and mainly got convicted because the jury thought he was a Radical inclined to do such things.
So I do think its kinda ridiculous, its what they choose to believe. Do you think that just because he was convicted is the same exact thing as commiting the crime? People still bitch about O.J. so still specualting after the fact is not uncommon. Mumia might appeal and get it overturned.
Java, Whats in a name? The Straight Dope has tons of answers on everything. Besides that, you don’t seem to realise that nothing stops little Astroturf Orgs from getting impressive names. You would believe a report from the “Society of really smart and unbiased people ” that happens to be Conservative Astroturf?
October 7th, 2003 at 11:44 am
May God smite me when I get my news and information from “The Straight Dope.”
Mumia is a cop killer, a convicted cop killer. in the same system you and I would go thru, the system that makes this country what it is. If the jury convicted him, that’s it. Case closed. Get over it.
Fry Mumia.
October 7th, 2003 at 12:14 pm
UY, you keep doing the same thing over and over… You keep telling yourself that you’re the one who has the most information. You by your own words said you “don’t know all the facts.” I have researched the case before. The only criteria you are basing your claim that you know more than me is the fact that you don’t like my conclusion. Plain and simple.
Support the lousy cop killer for all I care.
Cannon and Marie, while yes, there is nothing incredibly prestigious about being an honorary citizen of France anymore, however, this honoring of a convicted cop killer has really taken them to a new low.
October 7th, 2003 at 12:21 pm
To further illustrate UY’s demagoguery, he has in this blog, previous condemned Rush Limbaugh as a “drug kingpin” based purely on accusations that even prosecutors and attorneys have called weak, - yet doesn’t condemn a man who was found guilty of murdering a police officer in a court of law.
Geeeeee, I wonder why.
October 7th, 2003 at 4:26 pm
That is soooooooo awesome! Paris makes the heroic freedom fighter Mumia an honorary citizen while US makes racists, homophobes and capitalist oppressors. Paris is indeed the most progressive commune on Earth!
That settles it - we’re moving there! The most enlightened people on Earth, together with an egalitarian socialist economy. I’m being called for like a whistle for a dog!
October 7th, 2003 at 6:25 pm
Matt when I said I dont know all the facts I meant there might be something you could bring to light, But sadly you cannot bring up anything I already didnt know so I guess I did know all the facts.
Matt I “defend” him because there is at least a chance he is innocent. Part of the reason he was convicted was because the jury was convinced he was a dangerous radical. Thats why people refer to him as a political prisoner.
And to Java, in our legal system Mumia can get the verdict overturned.
Matt when I called Rush a drug kingpin I was kidding around, only partly. I now know the true meaning of Schadenfreude and I like it.
October 7th, 2003 at 6:26 pm
I checked your link to the Rush thing, of course it is Newsmax. Matt your willful ignorance is astounding.
October 7th, 2003 at 8:52 pm
UY,
Then please don’t link Slate either, UY.I take that rag as seriously as you take Newsmax.
October 7th, 2003 at 9:28 pm
When did I ever link to slate?
October 7th, 2003 at 11:44 pm
“at least a chance he is innocent”?
well, yes….but not within a reasonable shadow of a doubt.
“because he was a dangerous radical”
part of the reason? perhaps, but that implies that it was not the only reason…..and if the other “part” of the reason is because the evidence showed him guilty beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt, It still makes no difference.
It could be overturned….but until that happens he is still a convicted cop-killer.
UY- mumia is a convicted cop-killer. convicted by the most constrained and forgiving court system of the most just nation on the planet. Mumia is not a political prisoner sent to a gulag in siberia. That’s how things usually end up in the socialist shitholes that the left espouses, but quite rarely in America. Either way, he is still a convicted cop-killer. France knows this. They bestowed what they see as an honor upon him. It is absurd to honor anyone who was found guilty of such a crime.
another way of putting it:
Mumia is a convicted cop-killer. T/F?
France is aware of the above. T/F?
France gave Mumia a rare award T/F?
If all the above is true, then France knowingly bestowed an honorary title on a convicted cop-killer.
What does that say about the moral integrity of the French?
October 7th, 2003 at 11:46 pm
UY, I am tired of your “my sources are objective, and yours are all biased” attitude. The way you look at things, if NewsMax said that apples grow on trees, you wouldn’t believe it, but if IndyMedia or Democratic Underground (or whatever left-wing source you may or may not cite) reported that the moon was made of cheese, than you’d believe that without question. You are an ignorant person, and it’s really getting on my nerves, and I’m sure it’s irritating other as well.
Now, regarding the Mumia thing. I have already said I have no intentions of wasting time bringing up facts on the case to try and englighten you on it - I have better things to do with my time.
Now, you “defend” him because “there is atleast a chance he is innocent.” Since you are atleast admitting that, then tell me, if “there is atleast a chance he is guilty,” then why would any country ever honor such a person who entire celebrity comes from his being on death row?
October 8th, 2003 at 8:47 am
H and UY, hey, if you like France so much, get the fuck out of here, and go there… plain and simple….
i’ll contribute to your plane tickets.
Oh wait, but you have no kahunas, so you can’t put your money where your mouth is.
October 8th, 2003 at 11:22 am
Hey Java and Matt if you dont want to pay your fair shares of taxes get the fuck out of my country. And Matt when I do provide links I dont provide them from biased sources so cut the crap.
I am defending him Matt becuase there is at least a chance he is innocent, god forbid someone wants to break up a conservative lynchmob.
Oh and Matt, If Newsmax said the sky was blue id check their sources. BTW its not just you use Newsmax and other sources worse than Faux News, you seem to immerse yourself in purely that kind of crap. Then you accuse Liberals of being biased.
October 8th, 2003 at 12:26 pm
UY- mumia is a convicted cop-killer. Convicted by a jury of peers. If there was such a great possibility that he was innocent, what happened to his appeals? oh yeah, they keep getting shot down, and SCOTUS has refused to review the case. What does that tell you about his innocence?
It tells you that he is guilty beyond a shadow of a reasonable doubt. So stop this infantile “he could be innocent” stuff; If France believes he is innocent, they should wait for it to be proven before awarding him anything.
October 8th, 2003 at 1:51 pm
I have no problem paying my taxes, I love sponsoring warheads in Iraq.
FauxNews…. aren’t you just a little biased?
put up a real e-mail address and then start talking.
October 8th, 2003 at 3:45 pm
Doc, If it was so open and shut why did they have to bring up his politcal persuasion? Why did they have to bring up stuff that happened when he was 16?
October 8th, 2003 at 4:02 pm
Why are you bringing up stuff that Arnold allegedly did 30 years ago?
October 8th, 2003 at 4:16 pm
UY the country you claim to love, the country you want to save from the Evil Shrub and combined with h want to turn it into the “perfect social commune” (did I get that right h?) means by the very fact of turning into France-Lite it will no longer be the country you claim to love.
To put it another way. There is already a France out there. If you want to live in a french like society then the best place to experience that is in France.
Now I will again ask a question of you (which I fully expect to have ducked again). Why do you post here? What is the need that drives you to post on conservative blogs? Hmmm? Have you found one person other than h who agrees with you? (Actually since you and h generally post about the same time frame on a given blog, moving from blog to blog, I am inclined to believe that you two are one and the same.)
Why post on a blog that takes your “totally righteous and truthful and unbaised” information and gives you what you feel is “crap”? Is there something I am missing here?
October 8th, 2003 at 4:55 pm
Wictory Wednesday
October 8th, 2003 at 5:10 pm
UY- I never said it was open and shut. All I said is that he was found guilty beyond a reasonable shadow of a doubt by a jury of his peers. Am I incorrect in believing what I hear, or are my sources biased? When rebuking this, please cite a source where he was factually not convicted.
I don’t know why it was brought up. Maybe, just maybe it was to establish the fact that he had no moral reservations about what he did, and that it would be consistent with his personality. I do not know why; I am studying to be a doctor, not a lawyer, so it is somewhat pointless for me to theorize legal strategy. Regardless, why he or his lawyers went with a certain defense is irrelevant to whether he was convicted.
October 8th, 2003 at 5:22 pm
Doc, well the fact is art of the reason he was convicted was becuase of his political background. There is a real difference between he almost certainly did it and proving he actually did, and the prosecutor used the jurors prejudices to gain a conviction.
October 8th, 2003 at 5:24 pm
cannon- at least UY reinforces my conclusions; after all, when I am done conversing with him, he has forced me to defend every aspect of an argument, no matter how trivial, and I leave the exchange with the satisfaction that the most thorough (and perhaps smartest, although that almost has to be true) attack by leftist ideology cannot find a flaw in my arguments.
UY usually dodges a question, or he tries to focus on a single fact that he percieves as being incongruous, while ignoring the whole rest of the argument. At other times, he attempts to attack the sources used, but cannot attack the logic. He will drag in other topics in order to deflect attention from what is being discussed. There are many such sophist strategems he uses, but these tactics are those of one who suffers from psuedologia phantastica, and nothing more.
October 8th, 2003 at 5:28 pm
Clinton is no longer President, and though this sabotage of national security will warrant deeper investigation - by far the most serious and immediate concerns and potential threats to America warrant investigation and disclosure from the current and presiding President.
Investigate Clinton all you want (though from my perspective, the FBI was doing good intelligence work which always gets a little sticky) - but by all means investigate.
However before using tax payer dollars on FBI dealings with Hamas during the Clinton administration - First - we must redress the more immediate issues revolving around Bush Fundamentalist Oligarchy’s deceptions, misrepresentations, acts of perfidy, reckless miscalculations, cloaking of accounting, and the woefully misguided and exceedingly costly and bloody nationbuilding quagmire in Iraq, and disturbing reconstitution of the Taliban and al Queda in Afghanistan.
I appreciate your misguided love of this nation, but we divide hard and fast on the veracity of this single point which involves every other decision - “..we are good people that can truly help a country rebuild itself and work towards a common good… not perfection, but improvement for sure.”
If you are referring to the American people, and our unchallengeable military - then I agree. However Bush and his rightwingideologue shades do not represent or speak for the best interests of the will of the people of American and hold far more narrow objectives, none of which are noble or good, and most which involve funneling huge amounts of other peoples money into the off sheet accounts of the oil energy, and private military cartels and cronies in the Bush fundamentalist republican oligarchy. Hence the devolving quagmire in Iraq, and the curious shielding of the real terrorist threats to America abundantly funded, and overtly nurtured by Bush’s “good friends” in the House of Saud.
Bush promises one thing, - delivers quite another, and refuses to accept accountability or even recognize any responsibility for any misstep, failure, abuse, act of perfidy or malfeasance, deception, or neglect resulting from his shapeshifting.
The UN is US silly. It is our kindler gentler side, the side of America that truly represents the people, the globalist, internationalist America that Bush has ignored, abused, deceived, bankrupted, devolved sold-out and shamed.
Send Bush to his much deserved ignomious place of infamy, and replace him with non-nationalist citizen of the world such as Dean.
October 8th, 2003 at 5:30 pm
cannon, h is mumia from the rott blog He is not me. I post at Reich wing blogs to sharpen my debate skills, keep up with what the other side is thinking, and to provide a counterbalance to the right wing circle jerks always found and to provide a healthy dose of facts. Cannon may I ask you a question. Why do you beleive you are right? Conservatives tend to completely surround themselves with other as close minded, there a few such as Matt and probably you who no doubt as children were spoiled way to much and now love to talk about how “I worked hard and made it why cant they” You are trying to turn my country into Thailand or Brazil or one of the other Cheap Labor hellholes if you want things to be that way get the fuck out of my country.
October 8th, 2003 at 5:34 pm
again- UY dodges the question of whether mumia was convicted, by bringing out a theory that for whatever reasons, the prosecution, mentioned his beliefs and past, which UY assumes means that there was no other evidence, and that it was only his political beliefs which not only led to his conviction, but precluded the possibility of getting the ruling overturned.
By questioning the veracity of the verdict, he hopes to draw the discussion away from the fact that a convicted cop-killer was bestowed a French honor (what an oxymoron that is; “french honor” indeed!).
If this is the best defense of France’s behavior, it is untenable at best, and viciously perverse at worst. Either way, it only serves to reinforce my conclusions that France is an amoral nation.
October 8th, 2003 at 5:37 pm
Foresta- I think the POTUS should, by definition, be a nationalist; not a “non-nationalist”……he does represent and make decisions for a nation, after all.
October 8th, 2003 at 5:40 pm
I quote Tony Foresta, “Blah blah blah blah… Bush is Evil… Blah blah blah blah… Vote for Dean.”
October 8th, 2003 at 5:42 pm
Cannon- as you can see, UY’s tactics look positively brilliant next to Foresta’s. Although he still does not answer the question, he does not just launch into a pointless confabulation, which betrays a textbook disturbance of thought process and perception.
October 8th, 2003 at 5:52 pm
Doc , you apparently have the reading comprehension of a 10 year old. I answered your question so cut the crap. The evidence is not that great the bullet could not even be conclusively connected to him. So Doc , do you believe it is entirely irrational for people to believe he is some what a political prisoner?
October 8th, 2003 at 6:54 pm
Mumia is a piece of shit! He is worshiped by the Left because he is black, and an anti-American activist/thug. Having him kill a cop only reinforces their idolatry.
He was part of the terrorist group Black Panthers which guilty white liberal shitstains romanticize to assuage their guilt over being white.
He is perfect for the guilty white liberal’s demented “thought” process. If he didn’t exist they would create him.
Pull the switch already! Um Dumb, why don’t you sit on his lap and let him get in one last buggering as we pull the switch?
October 8th, 2003 at 7:01 pm
UY’s insistance that the evidence against Mumia is weak is a direct reflection of the lack of information he has on the case. Once again, I’ll repeat that I have researched the case before. I have read about the evidence, I have read transcripts of the trial… UY can say repeatedly that he knows more than me, but he only wants to believe that.
As I’ve said before, I’m not really interested about debating Mumia’s trial - the issue here is really is whether or not it is appropriate to honor a convicted cop-killer.
October 8th, 2003 at 9:59 pm
no, UY, you did not…..I asked you if mumia was a convicted cop killer. I asked you if France was aware that he was a convicted cop-killer. I asked you what that said about France. Your response was to bring into question whether the conviction was supported by the evidence. Unless I am wrong, you were not on the jury. The jury was presented with all of the evidence, and they returned a guilty verdict. You can bitch and moan about it all you want, but when it gets down to brass tacks, he was convicted, and his appeals basically fell flat.
The reason I asked you those questions is because we both know the answers, and by stating the naked facts, you would be exposing your psuedo-intellectual masturbation for what it is.
I will respond to your question; perhaps you will learn by example.
I believe it is very irrational to believe that he is a political prisoner. He was convicted beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt by a jury of his peers. Furthermore, his appeals were denied. To believe that he was convicted by 12 random people merely because of his politics, and that the appeals process subsequently failed to pick up on that, is quite irrational. It is in fact delusional.
mumia is a cop-killing thug. It really is that simple. Your failure to accept this gives testament to how hijacked you emotionally are by a false idea. It is quite obvious to me that you have too much of yourself at stake to admit that you erred in judgement. To simply admit that mumia is a cop-killer would mean not only that you were wrong, but that you fanatically defended a debunked idea, even after you should have known it for the lie it is.
You have been served a pile of shit, and taken huge bites. Instead of spitting it out, and pushing it away, you would rather keep slurping it up and exalting the cook, because as revolting as it is, you find it far more unpalatable to admit error.
bon appetite!
October 8th, 2003 at 10:08 pm
Doc and RR are some of the most fuckheaded people , and I mean ever. Suck the turds out my ass you fascist lynchmob cretins. RR basically said its ok to be prejudiced since Mumia was a Black Panther, Doc say politics have nothing to do with it, Eat shit and die you hypocritical dumbasses.
October 8th, 2003 at 10:22 pm
“RR basically said its ok to be prejudiced since Mumia was a Black Panther”
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, Doc, we hurt the poor Socialist wannabe’s feewings! I’m drowning in an ocean of tears.
Damn right fool I’m prejudiced against Black Panthers. I don’t like terrorists and I WILL pre-judge them (that’s what prejudice means - you’re welcome). That you would complain about that shows what a terrorist coddling, morally relevant jerk you are.
Go play with your blow-up Mumia doll.
Deviate.
October 8th, 2003 at 10:30 pm
http://www.freemumia.org/intro.html
It is a biased site sue me. RR is a bigoted asshole, and I might add a fucking fascist creep.
October 8th, 2003 at 10:59 pm
Um Yeah,
Your comments are out of line, and you have been banned from posting comments on this blog until further notice.
October 8th, 2003 at 11:44 pm
Damn, RR….I guess UY got pushed over the edge! He couldn’t face the inevitable conclusion, and launched into some sort of nastiness.
note: in all his persistant rambling, he never answered my questions, or any question for that matter. I never said politics had absolutely nothing to do with it, just that politics are at most a red herring in mumias case.
UY- Face it, I have you pinpointed.
October 9th, 2003 at 8:19 am
watch out for Doc, he is doctor guy, and he knows how to use his scalpel. When says he’s pinpointed you, watch out, or he mgiht make that literal… hehehe…. evil doctor in the house… hehehe
October 9th, 2003 at 10:39 am
Your hero Wally George died. He’s now in Morton Downey Jr.’s green room in Hell being screamed to “Zip It!”
October 9th, 2003 at 2:36 pm
The left have a severely demented view of the Mumia issue. They only read the “information” given out by the Free Mumia movement and dismiss anything else. Even UY, who is quick to criticize any source he doesn’t like as biased and therefore untrue, has even linked a page from the Free Mumia movement, and while admitting it is biased, finds this okay for him to do.
Nothing changes the fact the Mumia is a cop killer.
October 10th, 2003 at 11:42 pm
I would like to thank UY for introducing me to Free Republic. Thanks to him, I am now a “Freeper” (heh)
October 13th, 2003 at 10:34 am
Oh no heather! You now belong to a “hate group!” Shame on you!
You should be walking in the footsteps of Um Yeah…
October 15th, 2003 at 12:49 am
Just giving credit, where credit is due.:)
October 18th, 2003 at 9:06 pm
Sorry to say this Matt, but some “freepers” are pretty nasty themselves.
I stated an opinion about healthcare in this country (as you know, I’m in this business, and have been for around 17 years) A couple of them (including the husband of a physician) attacked me personally–called me a liar, called my profession a “clerk” position-highly insulting- accused me of probably being a terrible nurse.Sounded like a real snob, to boot. Calls himself “Penn Engineer. Really vicious stuff.
Needless to say, I reported this and told them to “unregister” me. So far, no apology from them either.
I never attacked anyone to begin with. But I will now have to grudgingly admit that UY may be right about them.
October 18th, 2003 at 10:26 pm
Ms heather,
The acts of one or a few of the people registered on Free Republic do not represent the group as a whole.
Some liberals who’ve read this site have attacked me. Others haven’t. One action does not define the groups general essence or morality. So I don’t see how unregistering solves much. But do as you feel.
Keep in mind some liberal people go on there and cause ruckus also.
October 18th, 2003 at 11:11 pm
Matt,
Feel free to e-mail on the details on this subject.
Suffice it to say, these are “country club republicans” The kind that on this particular subject (healthcare) say “let them eat cake.”
My point is: I’ve always thought generally, it was the Left that resorted to name calling and personal destruction- not debating ideas.
Whether we like it or not-it happens on our side too.
And this person (SNOB) is what gives us Republicans a bad name.
He should’ve been banned.
Being a newbie, didn’t necessarily make me a troll.
October 23rd, 2003 at 2:35 pm
Told u Ms H I dont lie.
October 27th, 2003 at 5:01 pm
“Doc and RR are some of the most fuckheaded people , and I mean ever. Suck the turds out my ass you fascist lynchmob cretins.”
Boy, Um Yeah…you really are sharpening those debate skills! You absolute moron.
Didn’t the rest of you people realize what a legal authority Um Yeah is? Didn’t you read above where he told us he’s taking a law class?
Honestly, people, what do you expect when you try and carry on a logical with a college kid?
October 27th, 2003 at 5:02 pm
…logocal debate…
October 30th, 2003 at 10:58 am
I have no idea whether Mumia actually did it, considering I’ve read neither sides “unbiased” material. But I have to agree that the left has gone insane on this one; from the little I know, there’s a lot of evidence against him, even though he didn’t get the fairest possible trial. But seriously, if you’re going to claim the Free Mumia people represent the left, I get to push all the religious nuts on the right. Abortion bombings anyone?
I guess I’d have to accept those PETA morons if I want you to take the bombers.
October 30th, 2003 at 8:22 pm
UY,
Now do you see that we right-wingers aren’t necessarily “lock-steppers”? That we can have compassion? Can you admit that.
BTW–Sorry about Barney G. leaving the Blogosphere? Where are you going to hang out now?
April 2nd, 2004 at 1:49 am
in what country is it illegal to kill cops? what next, no fishing or bike riding? rules rules rules shoot em if ya got em i say
April 2nd, 2004 at 4:27 pm
it’s illegal to kill anyone dumbass.
shoot em if ya got em i say
tell that to a cop the next time you see one…