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Fairy Tale High
By Matt Margolis | July 28, 2003
I always thought that a person’s sexuality was one’s own private business. The recent news about the new gay high school to be opened in New York this fall is now proof of how dangerous the Left is becoming in America. They claim to be the Equal Rights party, but now have become the champions of segregation.
Operating for two decades as a small alternative program with just two classrooms, the new Harvey Milk High School officially opens as a stand-alone public school with 100 students in September.
A public school… meaning paid for by taxpayer dollars. The people of New York are paying for a public bathhouse with books in it.
The school is undergoing a $3.2 million in city-funded renovations approved by the old Board of Education in June of last year. It will eventually take in 170 students by September 2004, more than tripling last year’s enrollment.
3.2 million dollars to segregate students. That’s a hefty price tage for a huge step backward on equal rights. Have we not learned anything since 1896? Does the Left understand how illegal and wrong this is?
The Hetrick-Martin Institute — the gay-rights youth-advocacy group that manages and helps finance the school in conjunction with New York’s Department of Education — has hired the school’s first principal.
Is this what so-called “gay rights” advocacy groups do? Find ways to single out homosexuals from the rest of the world community? Is that what they want? Is this the most appropriate way to help their cause?
Principal William Salzman said Harvey Milk will be an academically rigorous school that will specialize in computer technology, arts and a culinary program.
“This school will be a model for the country and possibly the world,” Salzman said.
I’m sorry, but I have a hard time believing that this kind of school is going offer anything on par with other schools, public or private. Segregating students by their sexuality leads to a sexually conscious atmosphere. Is this really the kind of atmosphere were these kids can learn in? Do homosexuals go to gar bars to drink, or to meet other gay people? Well, both, I’m sure… however, in the educational atmosphere, is it appropriate to call attention to students’ sexuality? Is it really the concern of the state who or what these kids are sexually attracted to? Are their sexual behaviors relevant to math, science and history?
“This is a not a touchy-feely situation. We intend to have 95 percent of our students go on to college. We have a lot of talent coming into the school. We want to steer these kids in the right direction.”
What’s next? Is there going to be gay higher education institutions too? Will the gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender youth of America start seeking out diplomas at Bathhouse University?
But New York State Conservative Party Chairman Mike Long blasted the school as “social engineering” that wastes tax dollars.
“Is there a different way to teach homosexuals? Is there gay math? This is wrong. This makes absolutely no sense,” Long said. “There’s no reason these children should be treated separately.”
Although Mr. Long has renewed my faith that there is a working brain in the State of New York, I can’t imagine how things have gotten to the point where advocacy groups advocate segregation. Yes. I’ll say that word again. Segregation.
Long said there are city and state discrimination laws on the books and that authorities should enforce them to stop gay-bashing.
“What next? Maybe we should have schools for chubby kids who get picked on. Maybe all kids who wear glasses should have special schools. It’s ridiculous,” he said.
Why not a school just for rich, straight and white students? Isn’t that fair? Why not schools for liberals, and schools for conservatives? Why don’t we create a completely separatist society where we all define ourselves by criteria on a checklist? This is where we’re headed.
What burns Long most is the $3 million spent on renovations. “Maybe this is one of the reasons the city has no money,” he said.
The city has no money because they’re flushing it down the toilet on a school for kids solely because of who they choose to fuck. I hate to be so blunt about it, but isn’t that what this is? This is money being spent because people think the way teenagers have sex is a relevant issue in education. Are the sexual preferences of teenagers even something the city or the state is obligated to recognize and address? Have we perverted our society to the point where sexuality determines where you go to school?
This should be infuriating people. After all the progress made with African Americans over the years, would we expect them to establish their own segregated schools as part of their equal rights advocacy? Or are we going to see civil rights go full circle and have Jesse Jackson advocating all black schools so black children can be “removed from the racism of the white man,” or something else stupid like that?
This gay high school is a stupid and perverse idea. You think I’m a homophobe or something? If you want gay kids to have their own schools, who’s the real homophobe?
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July 28th, 2003 at 10:54 pm
What a gay idea.
July 29th, 2003 at 12:23 am
What kind of football team will they have. Everyone playing center or “wide” reciever.
July 29th, 2003 at 8:35 am
The New York Fudge Packers…
July 29th, 2003 at 8:40 am
What happens if for some strange reason this gay school manages to provide a good education for it’s students, and it suddenly starts attracting non-gay students to wanting to attend? Highly unlikely, but nevertheless, we’ll see a repeat of the desegregation movement. Only this time it’ll be straight people demanding equal opportunity… This is headed in a bad direction.
July 29th, 2003 at 9:16 am
Look, Matt, I don’t know about you, but even when the gay guys at my high school “kept it to themselves” they would get regular beatings for being gay. The slightest bit of effeminite behavior labels you from day one. High school kids ain’t the most enlightened when it comes to equality. So why not offer these kids a place where they can study without fear, where they don’t have to hear “faggot” or “Dyke” on a regular basis? High school is jacked up enough without having to fear for your life. Mathew Sheppard is a pretty good example of that. The reason why straight white kids don’t have their own public school is A. they aren’t discriminated against in general, and B. that’s what boarding school is for. So get off your soap box and let the gay kids have their ONE high school. You get all the other ones.
July 29th, 2003 at 1:00 pm
Adam,
While it is true, there are people out there who hate gay people, I have yet to see personally any evidence that the problem is so bad that people are getting “regular beatings” at school.
Secondly, in our society today, there is a an enormous acceptance of gays and gay culture. Homosexual characters are common in television and movies.
The Matthew Shephard case is not the norm. Cliques occur in school settings all the time based, and there are various types of homogeneous groups: jocks, band kids, cheerleaders, “scrubs”, etc. etc. etc. Gay students are no more or less subject to bullying than another group. Where does segregation end? First it’s a school for gay students. Then it’s a school for jocks and cheerleaders. Then it’s a school for “scrubs.” What happened to diversity?
I don’t buy the argument that gays are disproportionately attacked than any other “target group” not based on sexuality. In fact, gays are probably more accepted due to political correctness, and gay chic.
That’s right, having been through both high school and college, I’ve seen gay students warmly accepted by the majority of people - and many girls love to have a token male gay friend, or their “gay boyfriend.”
As a straight white male, I have in fact been discriminated against. For various reasons. Being a conservative, I have been threatened with physical violence. There are intolerant people in the world, but intolerance was a reason for desegregation in the past. Why is intolerance being used as a reason for segregation in the present?
If the gay students want their own school, it should be privately funded. Government money should not be promoting segregation of any type. You don’t promote acceptance of a minority group by singling them out.
July 29th, 2003 at 1:50 pm
Gay people in some cases have more rights than straight people… here is why:
Some places offer health care benefits to their employees who are in same-sex “unions” (that are not recognized by state law). There is some type of rigorous paper work that must be done so that gay couples can share their health insurance benefits. Now, my problem is that a similar courtesy is not extended to straight un-married couples. What’s the story there??? Someone let me know if I have my facts wrong, or if i am just plain ignorant.
July 29th, 2003 at 3:00 pm
Java: As far as I know, you do have your facts wrong, though it may differ depending on whether it’s a company policy or a state/district law, and which company. In most cases I know of, those benefits are indeed extended to unmarried straight couples. (And even if they weren’t, it’d still be an arguable case, since gays don’t have the right to marry and get shared benefits that way.)
I’m forced to agree that gay kids do live in fear in most high schools. It’s definitely not true in all schools, and I even have a friend who went through an “art” school where the gay boys outnumbered the straight (but being a lesbian was somehow still a huge social stigma), but in the average American public high school it’s a sentence to hell if people even suspect you of being gay. I agree your high school years can be hell for a lot of reasons, but “gay” is still one of the most serious condemnations.
That said, come fucking ON. Now they’re going to be harassed twice as hard because of where they go to school. Segregation didn’t help blacks and it’s not going to help gays either.
July 29th, 2003 at 3:29 pm
My girlfriend worked for a hospital a few months ago. They offered gay couples the ability to share health insurance. I had her ask if she could get me onto her insurance… a big fat NO.
July 29th, 2003 at 3:46 pm
It comes down to special interest wanting to have it’s cake and eat it too. The NAACP wants equal rights for African Americans, but does not want to give up affirmative action. Now, at least in NY, Gays want to be recognized as equals, but want their own high school. Until equality migrates from the bottom up, rather than imposed from the top down, situations like this will pervade our society and will to so to everyone’s detriment. Change is good for society, but remember it must be done on a two-way street.
July 29th, 2003 at 5:31 pm
The most kicked around and abused kids will always be the fat or ugly. If a kid is gay he can hide it, if you don’t meet the attractive status or are overweight you are complete shit in school. I still feel bad for the cruelty I witnessed and never said shit about. I avoided these kids so as not to have their ugly “stigma” rub off on me in the eyes of the vicious and popular. Hiding in the bookish “middle class” of kids was safe but I still feel guilty to this day for not saying anything.
July 29th, 2003 at 6:19 pm
Does anyone actually remember high school? No one, no matter how much they hated gays and talked about “I’m gonna beat that queer’s ass” ever did. They were all talk. Now, also, another person’s sexuality is not my problem. It is the business of you and who you sleep with, so don’t tell me without me asking. This is just a cosmetic measure that won’t stop anything. It’s not the gay kids who get persecuted, it’s the fat, the stupid, the ugly kids.
July 29th, 2003 at 8:45 pm
Java,
Last time I checked, the gay population of the US was not allowed to get married, as the rest of society thinks monogomy between two men or two women is horrifyingly sinful, yet JLo and Affleck are perfectly OK. For every drunken, dysfunctional straight marriage, I can show you a gay couple ready to honor those vows and can’t, thanks to America’s inabbility to seperate church and state. That’s discrimination.
Matt, I don’t know where you went to school, but this is NYC. It’s ain’t a hospitible public high school atmosphere. The adult world may be open to different people in this city, but the public schools is a torrent of raging testosterone. Show any wekaness and your toast. It’s apples to oranges.
July 29th, 2003 at 10:43 pm
if they can’t handle other people in school, how are gays gonna handle being in the real world?
July 29th, 2003 at 11:04 pm
No one, no matter how much they hated gays and talked about “I’m gonna beat that queer’s ass” ever did.
Er, Matthew Shepard?
July 30th, 2003 at 8:40 am
The fact that an institution would allow a non-married couple to share health insurance sets a precedent. If they allow gay couples to do that, it’s discrimination against straight couples. yeah, yeah, the whole argument about straight couples can get married blah blah blah…. I’m not disputing that, but allowing one group the ability to take advantage of sharing health insurance, and not allowing another group…… If they said only white couples can get shared health insurance, and black couples couldn’t, you’d be up in arms. You can’t be a white straight person (especially a male) and expect to be treated equally anymore.
July 30th, 2003 at 9:29 am
Java,
I have the tiniest violin in the world and I’m playing it for you right now. The plight of the straight white man is truly a sad state of affairs. Poor guys…look at em sitting there in their board rooms, shunned by society. Pity the poor things, playing on their golf courses, while those lucky queers get to sneak away with health benefits at that tiny handful of companies that allow it. That gay agenda really has you guys treated like dirt with their evil desire to be able to raise their children and have power of attorney over their loved ones. They don’t have that yet, but they could get it! Watch out! Poor straight white guy…
July 30th, 2003 at 12:19 pm
Kimmet - That guy was not in high school, he was a 21 year old college student. Also he hooked up with those two guys in a bar. Don’t make it sound like he was killed in school by other students.
July 30th, 2003 at 3:40 pm
Bushed,
I guess some people are more equal than others right?
You talk as if straight white men are the only group that have true opportunity in this country. That is a ridiculous lie. You can pretend all you want that straight white men are evil and don’t deserve the success they earn, but then who’s the intolerant bigot here?
July 30th, 2003 at 5:17 pm
Bushed, you’ll have to explain why gays are the 2nd richest marketing demographic in the US, after senior citizens.
July 30th, 2003 at 6:24 pm
Whoa, I never said straight white men are evil, or that they don’t deserve their success, because where would I be then? I’m just saying that we have had the advantage from day one and every other group has been trying to become truly equal for a long time. We had a 200 year head start on most everyone. (With the exception of the gay rich men who hide it so well.) Around 1965 is when I consider the marathon to equality started, and by that point we had a 23 mile lead. Do you honestly believe that everyone else has a completely equal share in the pie? Women have come the closest to catching up, but there’s still a private club blocking that door for the rest of society. The fact is white males control the MAJORITY of society. The gays have conspiratorily worked their way into the entertainment market, but for the most part, Dubya likes to bring in his own, except for his tokens. Are there more opportunities for minorities now than there were back in the day? ABSOLUTELY. But they’ve only had a few decades to catch up on our gigantic lead. That’s all I’m saying. I just get tired of hearing us white guys whine about how their getting screwed when everyone else has been throughly screwed for years. Everyone else gets to put out twice the effort just to break even and that’s not what I call equality.
July 30th, 2003 at 7:34 pm
Serious piece of advice: Stay away from gay issues. It’s the “new racism,” and liberals will label you in the most slanderous ways imaginable.
Have you ever heard a Jewish person say, “You seem fixated on Jews. You must be a fucking Jew! HA HA HA! You wear a little hat in your closet at night, don’t you!” It’s completely irrational, and frankly it’s scary. Maybe the homosexuals did get picked on too much in high school, and have been driven irrepairably insane?
About the linked article itself, though: I didn’t see anything about the actual admissions process. The “oral exam” comment was funny, but seriously, what is the admissions process?
Do these nutcases just plan on rounding up all theatre students and non-athletes, or are they going to have a school made up of a couple dozen volunteers?
October 29th, 2004 at 5:00 am
Many gay kids suffer regular beatings and subsequently commit suicide in high school when they can’t hide their ‘gay side’. Although I’m an educated,just finised my Master’s, you my ignorant friend, can truly never conceive what those kids endure…fuck off.