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		<title>By: Almiranta</title>
		<link>http://www.mattmargolis.com/archives/2005/08/19/if-you-want-to-go-by-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-77233</link>
		<dc:creator>Almiranta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 23:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and Cindy&#039;s crew is getting on air-conditioned buses to go on a three week propaganda tour, no doubt with all the comforts they have enjoyed in Crawford (including catered meals).  Why aren&#039;t these buses, and these funds, and these caterers, going to Houston to help out with the disaster relief?  Or to New Orleans, or to Gulfport?

No, the BDS Tour is a lot more fun, and self-indulgent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Cindy&#8217;s crew is getting on air-conditioned buses to go on a three week propaganda tour, no doubt with all the comforts they have enjoyed in Crawford (including catered meals).  Why aren&#8217;t these buses, and these funds, and these caterers, going to Houston to help out with the disaster relief?  Or to New Orleans, or to Gulfport?</p>
<p>No, the BDS Tour is a lot more fun, and self-indulgent.</p>
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		<title>By: Almiranta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Almiranta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2005 23:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polls are examples of GIGO.  The garbage going in is the misinformation and outright propaganda of the MSM, and naturally what comes out is also garbage.

You want to do a real poll?  Go to a nice-sized city.  Omaha, maybe, or Denver.  Denver&#039;s a leftist bastion in Colorado--go there.  Pick out a thousand of each---Democrats, Republicans, and Independents.  Now, divide each group in half.  Poll your first five hundred of each group.  But have the other five hundred of each group listen to speeches by returning servicemen and women, and by Iraqis.  Show them the stats on the more than 3000 schools build by the US, the feeling of security in vast areas of Iraq that were formerly living under a cloud of fear due to the death squads, etc.  Show them a map of Iraq, showing the safe areas and the dangerous ones, so they can see that more than 70% of the country is normalized, with people working, driving, going to school, etc.  Explain that the newly risen casualty figures of American servicemen and women is directly related to the new, and extrememly effective, offensive actions taken against terrorist strongholds.  Let those who have fought in these battles tell you what they thought of the Iraqis who fought with them---their ability, their training, their resolve.  In other words, give them some facts to counter the full-court press of negativism they usually get.  And then poll that group.

The difference in the poll numbers would prove the idiocy of the polling we do today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polls are examples of GIGO.  The garbage going in is the misinformation and outright propaganda of the MSM, and naturally what comes out is also garbage.</p>
<p>You want to do a real poll?  Go to a nice-sized city.  Omaha, maybe, or Denver.  Denver&#8217;s a leftist bastion in Colorado&#8211;go there.  Pick out a thousand of each&#8212;Democrats, Republicans, and Independents.  Now, divide each group in half.  Poll your first five hundred of each group.  But have the other five hundred of each group listen to speeches by returning servicemen and women, and by Iraqis.  Show them the stats on the more than 3000 schools build by the US, the feeling of security in vast areas of Iraq that were formerly living under a cloud of fear due to the death squads, etc.  Show them a map of Iraq, showing the safe areas and the dangerous ones, so they can see that more than 70% of the country is normalized, with people working, driving, going to school, etc.  Explain that the newly risen casualty figures of American servicemen and women is directly related to the new, and extrememly effective, offensive actions taken against terrorist strongholds.  Let those who have fought in these battles tell you what they thought of the Iraqis who fought with them&#8212;their ability, their training, their resolve.  In other words, give them some facts to counter the full-court press of negativism they usually get.  And then poll that group.</p>
<p>The difference in the poll numbers would prove the idiocy of the polling we do today.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.mattmargolis.com/archives/2005/08/19/if-you-want-to-go-by-polls/comment-page-1/#comment-76187</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KAHN
so sad-again back up what u say and enlist once again-oh I am Proud I suckered you to teach you a lesson-you believe everything you read period-you were fooled and U got angry. Instead of investigating matters on their own accord and attempting to hear both sides without a bias of liberal or conservative you only hear perhaps half a truth. Who is to say you will never know until you ask questions beyond what you read in front of you. You&#039;ll find many of truths we hold onto as individuals are from holding a certain point of view. 
Anyway let&#039;s see you put your words into action as for your other questions on war and terrorism I&#039;ll give it some thought and would be more than happy to learn from your actual exeperiences over any rehtoric you have read. Oh and as for &quot;kicking my ass&quot; you do make me laugh please save those lines for the playground BIG KISS to you
mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KAHN<br />
so sad-again back up what u say and enlist once again-oh I am Proud I suckered you to teach you a lesson-you believe everything you read period-you were fooled and U got angry. Instead of investigating matters on their own accord and attempting to hear both sides without a bias of liberal or conservative you only hear perhaps half a truth. Who is to say you will never know until you ask questions beyond what you read in front of you. You&#8217;ll find many of truths we hold onto as individuals are from holding a certain point of view.<br />
Anyway let&#8217;s see you put your words into action as for your other questions on war and terrorism I&#8217;ll give it some thought and would be more than happy to learn from your actual exeperiences over any rehtoric you have read. Oh and as for &#8220;kicking my ass&#8221; you do make me laugh please save those lines for the playground BIG KISS to you<br />
mike</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to KAHN and MATT
Also in your world of absolutes and views on Abortion-either you are supporting it or not you should apply to yourself-IF YOU SUPPORT BUSH AND HIS WARnTHEN YOU SHOULD VOLUNTEER IF YOU DON&quot;T THEN YOU ARE ALSO JUST FULL OF SHIT AND YOU KNOW IT! and yes Kahn we know you served so sign up again.
mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to KAHN and MATT<br />
Also in your world of absolutes and views on Abortion-either you are supporting it or not you should apply to yourself-IF YOU SUPPORT BUSH AND HIS WARnTHEN YOU SHOULD VOLUNTEER IF YOU DON&#8221;T THEN YOU ARE ALSO JUST FULL OF SHIT AND YOU KNOW IT! and yes Kahn we know you served so sign up again.<br />
mike</p>
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		<title>By: Kahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay - The figures I was discussing were from Newsweek - not Time. My mistake...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8186600/site/newsweek/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay &#8211; The figures I was discussing were from Newsweek &#8211; not Time. My mistake&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8186600/site/newsweek/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8186600/site/newsweek/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 02:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course - I post a link to a site with documents to back me up - and you post this crap. Oh wait - August 27! Back from summer vacation eh? Well, i hope you are at a liberal college. Maybe you could intern for CBS and make up some fake documents for them.

Why are you so proud that you &quot;suckered&quot; us? You didn&#039;t actually if you look back. You said you had been a Marine - but didn&#039;t say it like a Marine would have. Still in a dorm? Too bad, I bet they don&#039;t allow pets. What will you do for sex without your dalmation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course &#8211; I post a link to a site with documents to back me up &#8211; and you post this crap. Oh wait &#8211; August 27! Back from summer vacation eh? Well, i hope you are at a liberal college. Maybe you could intern for CBS and make up some fake documents for them.</p>
<p>Why are you so proud that you &#8220;suckered&#8221; us? You didn&#8217;t actually if you look back. You said you had been a Marine &#8211; but didn&#8217;t say it like a Marine would have. Still in a dorm? Too bad, I bet they don&#8217;t allow pets. What will you do for sex without your dalmation?</p>
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		<title>By: Kahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Military Science - download books or order free on-line.

But you liberals don&#039;t really care about facts anyways - do you?

http://www.dodccrp.org/html2/pubs.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Military Science &#8211; download books or order free on-line.</p>
<p>But you liberals don&#8217;t really care about facts anyways &#8211; do you?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dodccrp.org/html2/pubs.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dodccrp.org/html2/pubs.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike - you are the only admitted liar here. You used phrases when you pretended to be a Marine that were obviously wrong. Again - You admit even in this post that you lied and made up characters. I thought you had been banned from this group for being a liar.

That said - Bullshit. Read. What is you definition of asymetric warfare?  Why do terroists target innocents? And - just what are the trends. I&#039;m getting old now, but I&#039;ll bet I could still kick your ass - I&#039;d even wait for your boyfriend to climb off it first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; you are the only admitted liar here. You used phrases when you pretended to be a Marine that were obviously wrong. Again &#8211; You admit even in this post that you lied and made up characters. I thought you had been banned from this group for being a liar.</p>
<p>That said &#8211; Bullshit. Read. What is you definition of asymetric warfare?  Why do terroists target innocents? And &#8211; just what are the trends. I&#8217;m getting old now, but I&#8217;ll bet I could still kick your ass &#8211; I&#8217;d even wait for your boyfriend to climb off it first.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Kahn, Matt,
Kahn you know you are full of shit and just like to argue-you don&#039;t read and a sticker on the back of your gas guzzler isn&#039;t going to help. You said you served you believe everything you read without investigating anything on your own doing your own interviews -you are just as guilty of spreading propaganda as you accuse the left or right peproting it. I remeber when you were all suckered into an online conversation with characters that I made up didn&#039;t exist didn&#039;t even exist. You beleieved everything you read and spent your time arguing back. In fact you tried to get me kicked off this site because you were fooled you were duped and you realized how gullible and stupis you were-good job whining to Matt to get me kicked ooff-run to mom while you can I camer back and found the backdoor. Youare still the fool but your opinions do keep me entertained. Good going idiots.
Allthe best
mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Kahn, Matt,<br />
Kahn you know you are full of shit and just like to argue-you don&#8217;t read and a sticker on the back of your gas guzzler isn&#8217;t going to help. You said you served you believe everything you read without investigating anything on your own doing your own interviews -you are just as guilty of spreading propaganda as you accuse the left or right peproting it. I remeber when you were all suckered into an online conversation with characters that I made up didn&#8217;t exist didn&#8217;t even exist. You beleieved everything you read and spent your time arguing back. In fact you tried to get me kicked off this site because you were fooled you were duped and you realized how gullible and stupis you were-good job whining to Matt to get me kicked ooff-run to mom while you can I camer back and found the backdoor. Youare still the fool but your opinions do keep me entertained. Good going idiots.<br />
Allthe best<br />
mike</p>
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		<title>By: Kahn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay.

Wrong. Recruiting in the Army is off - slightly. Marine recruiting (which is pretty straight forward about what you&#039;re getting into)is NOT off. And, re-enlistments in the Army and Marines are up. Re-enlistments for forces serving in Afghanistan and Iraq are up even more. And - people are volunteering to go back at surprising rates.

Terrorism - be it suicide bombers, roadside bombers, or those jerks who shot the children for taking candy from American soldiers is targeted at the civilian populations of Iraq and the western nations. The people killed are just a means to an end to the terrorist. This is a known fact, and is in fact the principle guiding the attacks. It&#039;s how and why you fight a terrorist war.

The principle is called asymmetric warfare. You can not defeat your enemy on the battlefield - so you use guerilla tactics to sap his will to fight. The fact you are ignorant of this proves my point about the gap in military knowledge among liberals. It is independent of the Dem hatred of Bush - more of a trend accelerated by current events.

The military is becoming whiter, more conservative, and more Christian. The liberal colleges in the Northeast and in the West are not producing people willing to serve (as officers). This will have long term consequences for the Democratic Party as the rift between liberal and military grows and as the number of liberal leaders with military experience diminishes over time.

Time magazine ( I believe) ran an issue in June with the numbers and trends. I could be wrong on the month - have to check...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay.</p>
<p>Wrong. Recruiting in the Army is off &#8211; slightly. Marine recruiting (which is pretty straight forward about what you&#8217;re getting into)is NOT off. And, re-enlistments in the Army and Marines are up. Re-enlistments for forces serving in Afghanistan and Iraq are up even more. And &#8211; people are volunteering to go back at surprising rates.</p>
<p>Terrorism &#8211; be it suicide bombers, roadside bombers, or those jerks who shot the children for taking candy from American soldiers is targeted at the civilian populations of Iraq and the western nations. The people killed are just a means to an end to the terrorist. This is a known fact, and is in fact the principle guiding the attacks. It&#8217;s how and why you fight a terrorist war.</p>
<p>The principle is called asymmetric warfare. You can not defeat your enemy on the battlefield &#8211; so you use guerilla tactics to sap his will to fight. The fact you are ignorant of this proves my point about the gap in military knowledge among liberals. It is independent of the Dem hatred of Bush &#8211; more of a trend accelerated by current events.</p>
<p>The military is becoming whiter, more conservative, and more Christian. The liberal colleges in the Northeast and in the West are not producing people willing to serve (as officers). This will have long term consequences for the Democratic Party as the rift between liberal and military grows and as the number of liberal leaders with military experience diminishes over time.</p>
<p>Time magazine ( I believe) ran an issue in June with the numbers and trends. I could be wrong on the month &#8211; have to check&#8230;</p>
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